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Author Topic: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS  (Read 234995 times)

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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2700 on: February 09, 2016, 10:31:13 pm »

[Glorious Totalitarian Dorfland has three millennia of experience dealing with Moody dwarves, and a steady supply of useless wounded. After the first few Macabres, you can guess what they decided.]
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2701 on: February 09, 2016, 10:33:28 pm »

Moony is looking impatent, he is muttering
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2702 on: February 09, 2016, 11:13:35 pm »

((I wish I actually had an idea of what to blow a strange mood on, unless it was like, nuclear fusion which we can't do unless Amp is feeling incredibly generous for whatever reason.))
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« Reply #2703 on: February 09, 2016, 11:31:11 pm »

[You'd need to have some perquisite knowledge to even try, is the issue. My view is that you can't mood something if you don't at least have the basics of the technology. You could go from functional steam engines and dwarven clocktech to reasonably-advanced steampunk, for instance, but you can't jump from magnifying glasses to a photonic singularity engine.]
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Heiterverzweiflung. Not a legit German word so much as something a friend and I made up in German class once. "Carefree despair". When life is so fucked that you can't stop laughing.
http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2704 on: February 09, 2016, 11:38:40 pm »

Moony has made Amperzand, it is a dwarf skin bag! it menanced with spikes of dwarf bone.

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« Reply #2705 on: February 09, 2016, 11:42:36 pm »

[I mean, unless it's a magical artifact, I don't really see the point, but okay.]

[An example technology that's only really one mood and some minor research away is the atomic bomb. The only thing you really need aside from ongoing metals refining research, assuming Elagn has the basic idea of their mechanical function, is some way of separating atoms of different weight. That would let you get a higher concentration of U-235, and gun-type nukes are simple as shit from that point. Roughly the same technology would let you isolate Deuterium, which is a major step towards fusion.]
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http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2706 on: February 09, 2016, 11:44:47 pm »

((Welp, I know what my next project after powered flight is.

Hmm. . . Double moods into cold fusion? :P))
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2707 on: February 10, 2016, 12:00:11 am »

[I mean, unless it's a magical artifact, I don't really see the point, but okay.]

[An example technology that's only really one mood and some minor research away is the atomic bomb. The only thing you really need aside from ongoing metals refining research, assuming Elagn has the basic idea of their mechanical function, is some way of separating atoms of different weight. That would let you get a higher concentration of U-235, and gun-type nukes are simple as shit from that point. Roughly the same technology would let you isolate Deuterium, which is a major step towards fusion.]
(can it be ike hermiones bag from HP? aka holds alot more than it looks like it can?)

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« Reply #2708 on: February 10, 2016, 12:11:59 am »

[Certainly. Pretty much every mood thus far has been underused, and I view it as much easier to get a single-shot artifact working than to upgrade your entire knowledge base. It could even be more than that.]

[I'm not sure about the whole cold fusion thing, and would view a functional technology using conventional fusion as much easier. You could get a technical fusion reactor easily enough with a couple more moods after atom bombs, what with the Teller-Ulam design being basically a single-shot fusion power core.]
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http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2709 on: February 10, 2016, 01:44:43 am »

[Certainly. Pretty much every mood thus far has been underused, and I view it as much easier to get a single-shot artifact working than to upgrade your entire knowledge base. It could even be more than that.]

[I'm not sure about the whole cold fusion thing, and would view a functional technology using conventional fusion as much easier. You could get a technical fusion reactor easily enough with a couple more moods after atom bombs, what with the Teller-Ulam design being basically a single-shot fusion power core.]
(yey! hope moony doesnt go paradox mode and ruin the world c: jk)

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« Reply #2710 on: February 10, 2016, 02:24:17 am »

"This trip is so loooooooooooooong! Imagine if you had a bottomless bag, and you turned it inside out. Me thinks that's a paradox. And paradoxes lead to warp-time-space-continuum travel and rips and holes, and stuff!"
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« Reply #2711 on: February 10, 2016, 02:25:48 am »

((At that point we're running out of moods, though, as afaik we'd only have 2? active, non-mooded dwarves. Unless I die and am reincarnated or something.))
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« Reply #2712 on: February 10, 2016, 03:07:08 am »

(( moods are like 1ups))
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« Reply #2713 on: February 10, 2016, 03:11:00 am »

[Dwarves can have more than one mood, you just only get one to use at player discretion. You can expect invuluntary moods to be inconvenient. But yes, that is an issue. The moods are more a concession to Dwarf Fortress itself, and a neat bit of canon that needs better explaining, than an intended major gameplay mechanic of this in particular.]

[If you turn the magical bottomless bag inside out, it dumps the contents and works, but with the other part being the inside. Pretty useful if you were, say, carrying ten thousand gallons of water and needed to put out a fire very quickly.]
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http://www.collinsdictionary.com

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« Reply #2714 on: February 10, 2016, 07:17:30 pm »

I DO know fairly advanced mechanics for enhanced nuclear warheads, but that is beside the point. It would only be under fairly great duress that I would be willing to build them in this world. I would be happy to help with construction of nuclear power facilities, but not to make explosives.

Be somewhat interested in the bag, but not overly. Continue work on the dam, installing doors, floodgates, current turbines, and whatever elce it is ready for.
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