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Author Topic: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS  (Read 236003 times)

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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2505 on: January 31, 2016, 10:15:44 pm »

Definitely.
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« Reply #2506 on: January 31, 2016, 10:18:48 pm »

Good. No random explosions

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« Reply #2507 on: January 31, 2016, 10:25:58 pm »

"I do know how the aerodynamics of wings provide lift for airplanes, but we have no where near a good enough engine to get enough speed to generate enough lift to get said engine off the ground. The 1st round the world flight was done by a zeppelin, and a zeppelin we can make."
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« Reply #2508 on: January 31, 2016, 10:26:50 pm »

"You do that, then."
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2509 on: January 31, 2016, 10:35:08 pm »

"Let's finish the dam first. We can have the weavers work on the cloth while we finish it, but we still need it done as you said earlier."

Continue making stronger turbines for the dam
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« Reply #2510 on: January 31, 2016, 10:43:31 pm »

Helps with the dam
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2511 on: January 31, 2016, 10:50:46 pm »

((Good thing I'm an aerospace engineering student. I can probably help with planes but as Amp said, shitty steam engines won't cut it.

I wonder how a magitek-based motor would perform, though.. .)
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2512 on: February 01, 2016, 12:35:41 am »

Good. No random explosions

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Hmm?

Refine steam engines to make them portable -  steam trains?
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2513 on: February 01, 2016, 12:47:45 am »

[I'd think you'll want to refine them until you actually have steam engines, instead of crude boiler/piston assemblies. You can work on portability and usefulness afterwards.  Somebody should probably also work on energy storage, something magitek is probably well-suited to, in the case you don't want to rely on lead-acid batteries.]
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2514 on: February 01, 2016, 01:08:39 am »

<<*cough*This sounds like something Fish can do*cough*>>
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2515 on: February 01, 2016, 01:39:46 am »

((I know I'm not the magitek user here but how easy/difficult would it be to create a rotating magnetic field with magitek? What kind of torque/RPM could we get?))
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« Reply #2516 on: February 01, 2016, 01:45:55 am »

[The main difference with basic magitech is required quality control, since it can take energy from basically anywhere.]

[I don't actually have a terribly coherent opinion on the matter, please discuss further.]
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Re: If Bay 12 was a fortress Part 3: RETURN OF THE CHAOS
« Reply #2517 on: February 01, 2016, 02:17:12 am »

((Magitek-powered propellers, essentially. I want to know if I can get enough torque to spin a propeller around at speeds fast enough to fly a plane or plane-like contraption.

The discussion of powered flight got me thinking, is all.))
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« Reply #2518 on: February 01, 2016, 02:56:27 am »

[You can definitely get a plane running on magitek, and something along those lines is almost certainly your only heavier-than-air option for the time being, it just has difficulties and restrictions I don't have a good understanding of or opinion on. Your first barrier after tooling up for that kind of detailed work is going to be power, since it's more like an electric engine than a combustion one.]
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« Reply #2519 on: February 01, 2016, 03:38:32 am »

((The primary issue is thrust:weight ratio on our propeller and to a lesser extent what we can make the plane itself out of, given the lack of easy access to aluminum [is there bauxite on this embark?]. I was thinking that something closer to an electric motor might actually be more viable for the time being given the fact that we have the ability to pretty much scoop power straight out of the air, plus this sort of thing strikes me as somewhat less error-prone than what is essentially a sustained series of explosions. I'd imagine that initial designs would also be quite crude and of little practical use, though a change in power sources might change the design process somewhat.))
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