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[Bohandas]

any game where you are the police or military, or any game where you play the "good" guys who are often the opressors painted in white light.

Power to the People. Down with the man.

Don't forget the games where ypu're some kind 0f "tycoon". Business is bad too.

[SealyStar]

any game where you are the police or military, or any game where you play the "good" guys who are often the opressors painted in white light.

Power to the People. Down with the man.

I'm way to lazy to look for 'OOOH THE EDGE' macro. Feel free to google it at your own convenience.

I prefer images of The Edge from U2 with no accompanying text.

Besides, for this to fit the OP's criteria the enemies would have to be capital-G good guys, which isn't generally true of any side in any conflict.

[Bohandas]

There's Orphan Feast by AdultSwimGames, though iirc the protagonist reverses his stance on eating orphans halfway through the game

[Vattic]

any game where you are the police or military, or any game where you play the "good" guys who are often the opressors painted in white light.

Power to the People. Down with the man.

Don't forget the games where ypu're some kind 0f "tycoon". Business is bad too.

The recent Big Pharma tycoon encourages you to limit the potency of your drugs to avoid curing your patients/customers.

[Calidovi]

any game where you are the police or military, or any game where you play the "good" guys who are often the opressors painted in white light.

Power to the People. Down with the man.

I'm way to lazy to look for 'OOOH THE EDGE' macro. Feel free to google it at your own convenience.

I just reset my computer, but when my new OS disc comes in I can share my macros.

[H4zardZ1]

Ethically it should have to do with intent. If you shoot a random person but it turns out they were doublehitler you aren't a good guy.
In a gameplay standpoint there's nothing accidentally in the game.
If you think you're fighting the good guys but it turns out the good guys are led by doublehitler then that's because someone designed the game like that and it undercuts you as the villain.

First part: That's what i am talking about.
Second part: Do you mean that the character couldn't do anything accidentally in a gameplay standpoint?
Third part: That's what i am talking about too.

[Shadowlord]

If nobody's mentioned them yet*:

The Hearts of Iron series of games are World War II strategy games where you can literally play Nazi Germany (and one supposes you are playing Hitler, in that case).

Caveats: The game is focused on the war. I don't believe the holocaust is in the game, and I don't think the nazi flag is in it either (I haven't played the latest entry in the series, however, so I'm not entirely sure). There are mods, I believe, if you really want to feel like a terrible person.

(Disclaimer: The holocaust was a terrible thing and Hitler was a terrible person. Also, so was Stalin, who you can also play as, but whose mass-killings there isn't as much recognition of.)

* I read the entire thread but I've forgotten most of what was on most of the pages.

[Bohandas]

In Temple of Elemental Evil you have the option to join the game's namesake evil organization

[Harry Baldman]

Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer - the original campaign didn't let you do much more than be a dick to people or engage in criminal activities, but this changes a bit in the expansion, where you can be a dick to people, eat people's souls, eat powerful (and definitely well-meaning) spirits of the land, eat the soul of a god, ruin quite a few lives, oppose the generally benevolent, if passive god of death and eventually become a rampaging cosmic horror that even the gods fear if you play your cards right.

Of course, quite a few of the good guys are somewhat dubious in their methods, but they never manage to overshadow you if you are evil enough.

[Broseph Stalin]

First part: That's what i am talking about.
Second part: Do you mean that the character couldn't do anything accidentally in a gameplay standpoint?
Third part: That's what i am talking about too.

I mean that nobody accidentally programmed Superghandi who you were fighting to turn out to be Doublehitler at the end of the game. In the story it might be you legitimately being a bad guy but the people who made it deliberately undercut the idea that you were evil.

[Jay]

nobody accidentally programmed Superghandi who you were fighting to turn out to be Doublehitler

This just makes me think of Civ 1. 255 points of pure nuclear rage.

[Vattic]

First part: That's what i am talking about.
Second part: Do you mean that the character couldn't do anything accidentally in a gameplay standpoint?
Third part: That's what i am talking about too.

I mean that nobody accidentally programmed Superghandi who you were fighting to turn out to be Doublehitler at the end of the game. In the story it might be you legitimately being a bad guy but the people who made it deliberately undercut the idea that you were evil.

I don't think evil fighting evil makes either side necessarily less evil (Dungeon Keeper comes to mind). A war between demons would be plenty evil. Ultimately it depends how it's framed storywise. Wouldn't fit your definition of a bad guy game admittedly, but Solium Infernum has you fighting other demons for the throne of Hell.

[H4zardZ1]

I don't think evil fighting evil makes either side necessarily less evil (Dungeon Keeper comes to mind). A war between demons would be plenty evil. Ultimately it depends how it's framed storywise. Wouldn't fit your definition of a bad guy game admittedly, but Solium Infernum has you fighting other demons for the throne of Hell.

Here's the question: Is the character know what are they doing, how bad someone they are fighting and if they know about how bad it is?
Things like this invariably fail when the character KNOWS who he's fighting is a bad(der) guy. But when the character didn't know that they are fighting for the lesser evil, and everyone he fight is like that, it's not about who is he fighting anymore; It's more how he generally do things.

This is the quote are you looking for?

[Bohandas]

First part: That's what i am talking about.
Second part: Do you mean that the character couldn't do anything accidentally in a gameplay standpoint?
Third part: That's what i am talking about too.

I mean that nobody accidentally programmed Superghandi who you were fighting to turn out to be Doublehitler at the end of the game. In the story it might be you legitimately being a bad guy but the people who made it deliberately undercut the idea that you were evil.

I don't think evil fighting evil makes either side necessarily less evil (Dungeon Keeper comes to mind).

You don't really do anything very evil in Dungeon Keeper, you just have evil set dressings.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

some games in the metal gear series