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[pisskop]

Are we including games with the capacity to perform things that are socially taboo/fridge horror/'excessively mean'?

were treading back into vague and undefined territory again.

[Mipe]

Pokemon.

You force cute little critters to fight other cute little critters.

[Broseph Stalin]

To restate for the sake of clarity the big defining feature of being THE Bad Guy is that you are bad and your enemy is GOOD. A lot of the games being suggested are games where you are bad and are fighting bad guys or games where you're bad from a certain point of view or games where you can do bad things as a distraction from your ultimately good objectives.

In Postal 2 you have the power to kill innocent people and do bad things but most of the time when you actually have to kill someone they're psychotic gun wielding maniacs who are no better than you. Destroy All Humans is good but the Majestic ruin it by being brain washing world dominating moustache twirling villains instead of legitimately and understandably wanting to stop an alien invasion. You're bad but you're fighting another kind of evil.

Rampage is a good example of a bad guy game, you want to kill and destroy while your enemies want you to not do that.

[Bohandas]

Destroy All Humans is good but the Majestic ruin it by being brain washing world dominating moustache twirling villains instead of legitimately and understandably wanting to stop an alien invasion. You're bad but you're fighting another kind of evil.

That's why I said that only the first game and the first half of the second game count.

[Broseph Stalin]

That's why I said that only the first game and the first half of the second game count.

Unless I'm mistaken there are at least two separate mind control plots in the first one.

[ZeroGravitas]

You're playing as a director of the British equivalent of the tinfoil hatter's Men In Black (operating, amusingly, from the Department of Fisheries of the Ministry of Agriculture, similar to how Secret Service used to be part of Treasury),

Um... Secret Service was created in 1865 to fight currency counterfeiting. Of course it was part of the Treasury. They didn't even start protecting the president until 1901.

[scrdest]

You're playing as a director of the British equivalent of the tinfoil hatter's Men In Black (operating, amusingly, from the Department of Fisheries of the Ministry of Agriculture, similar to how Secret Service used to be part of Treasury),

Um... Secret Service was created in 1865 to fight currency counterfeiting. Of course it was part of the Treasury. They didn't even start protecting the president until 1901.

>_> Yes, I know, if you have a better example you are free to supply one.

[H4zardZ1]

Bad Rats: THIS IS A GAME WITH NO BACKSTORY. HOW DARE YOU SHADOWLORD?

FIFY

[Vattic]

Rampage was pretty straightforward. You knock down buildings and kill people, civilians included, because you can. There was no real point to it other than blow stuff up. No option to be good or fight the powah. Kill, eat, smash, repeat.

I thought to suggest it, but the monsters are the result of experiments carried out on humans by Scumlabs. It also smacks of King Kong where it's not the ape who is to blame exactly.

[ductape]

any game where you are the police or military, or any game where you play the "good" guys who are often the opressors painted in white light.

Power to the People. Down with the man.

[H4zardZ1]

Here's the question: Is the character know what are they doing, how bad someone they are fighting and if they know about how bad it is?
Things like this invariably fail when the character KNOWS who he's fighting is a bad(der) guy. But when the character didn't know that they are fighting for the lesser evil, and everyone he fight is like that, it's not about who is he fighting anymore; It's more how he generally do things.

[Bohandas]

Wait. What?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Dammit I meant Joseph Clarence, there is enough space in my brain dedicated for exactly one clarence so I just mushed those two together.

That reminds me of an anecdote I heard one time about a guy who got James Earl Jones mixed up with James Earl Ray

[Broseph Stalin]

Here's the question: Is the character know what are they doing, how bad someone they are fighting and if they know about how bad it is?
Things like this invariably fail when the character KNOWS who he's fighting is a bad(der) guy. But when the character didn't know that they are fighting for the lesser evil, and everyone he fight is like that, it's not about who is he fighting anymore; It's more how he generally do things.

Ethically it should have to do with intent. If you shoot a random person but it turns out they were doublehitler you aren't a good guy. In a gameplay standpoint there's nothing accidentally in the game. If you think you're fighting the good guys but it turns out the good guys are led by doublehitler then that's because someone designed the game like that and it undercuts you as the villain. 

[Egan_BW]

Ethically it should have to do with intent. If you shoot a random person but it turns out they were doublehitler you aren't a good guy.

When I played Fallout 3 for the first time I shot Tenpenny to steal his sniper rifle and got a bunch of positive karma.
AFTER blowing up Megaton for him.

[scrdest]

any game where you are the police or military, or any game where you play the "good" guys who are often the opressors painted in white light.

Power to the People. Down with the man.

I'm way to lazy to look for 'OOOH THE EDGE' macro. Feel free to google it at your own convenience.