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[hector13]

Propose we all pitch in to remake what was lost

"Oppose, as it punishes gods who weren't making deals with apocalyptic flashing lights."

Propose that for this one recreation any modifications to another God's work without their permission are disallowed and/or are subject to paying said God thrice the amount spent on changing it, or a minimum of 3 Essence, whichever is more.

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[Rolepgeek]

"Oppose, as it punishes gods who weren't making deals with apocalyptic flashing lights."

"We care not about Punishment,
Simply about efficacy,
As no one has truly lost anything,
Since our Essence has returned.
Additionally,
It gives advantage to those who had created something before the events,
While doing nothing for those who were kept from creating by them.
It seems an attempt to tilt the playing field,
Not towards one of two parties,
But one of three.
An attempt to use hysteria and mass sentiment,
To give some an unfair advantage,
In the wake of an otherwise fresh start.
The cost of all these creations, in fact,
Might kill those gods forced to pay for them,
If it was just them."

"We also have a question,
For the god Possaio:
Previously, you'd said you would follow the Codes of Opposition,
Or Parity, as we will call them.
But that you would join Unity;
In what way is this meant to work?
From what we had gathered,
If you are follow the codes of a Pantheon,
You are part of it.
And if you do not,
You are not.
Why, then, were or are you Opposed,
To joining the Opposition?"

[hector13]

"We have our Essence back, yes, but also everything that was created is damaged or destroyed. This was the fault of those distracted by flashing lights.

They deserve to be punished for their naivety, considering it did technically destroy everything."

[Rolepgeek]

"We have our Essence back, yes, but also everything that was created is damaged or destroyed. This was the fault of those distracted by flashing lights.

They deserve to be punished for their naivety, considering it did technically destroy everything."

"We would disagree;
Punishing someone for something,
That they could not have known,
Is not a punishment that fits what they have done.
Make amends, surely.
Learn from mistakes, most certainly.
But to punish?
That implies one of two things:
To discourage the action,
Or to satisfy one's own desire for retribution.
The former is only successful if they were not already,
And only useful if it is laid out beforehand.
The latter seems more likely for this,
Given the way you speak of it.
They were punished enough by the destruction itself,
And will be more circumspect in the future.
Trying to further harass them for such,
Simply smacks of abuse.
You would benefit, after all.
Ten Essence of creations, keyed to you,
Without a single Essence spent.
While they lose nigh-on all their Essence,
For a mistake none of us could have predicted.
And besides,
If you want to be technical
The star and it's satellites yet exist.
So the only losses were life.
And only aligned life, at that.
We may be the God of Duality,
And as such, we too are two-faced.
But that is a fault of our nature,
And we acknowledge it as such.
When other gods try to amass power
Using excuses to trample on others for it,
It reminds us of the need for Codes,
To prevent such gross misconduct."

[hector13]

"Ignorance is not a defense. The gods who were following the lights caused the destruction of everything; we were all punished for their curiousity.

I appreciate your viewpoint, yet I cannot agree with you. While we have all our Essence returned, we also have to repair the damage to the sun, planet and moons, which were manifested as a result of Council funds, not from our personal Essence pools. Why should all gods be punished twice for the actions of a curious few?"

[Rolepgeek]

"Because curiosity is not in itself to be discouraged,
And because the loss of a single Essence,
Is negligible, and with fifteen gods,
That is all we will have had to pay.
And once more we point out,
Not everything was destroyed.
But this brings up a new thought.
How would you know that they had caused it?
From what we can see,
That is an assumption entirely on your part,
As based on the events that transpired,
It seems likely that what happened,
Would have happened,
No matter what they did.
It seems to us,
That you seek to twist the facts,
To suit your own goals.
These are the facts of the matter:
A battle broke out between two factions.
Those two factions were both greatly different from us Gods.
Those two factions had been at war before we existed.
At least one faction seemed to be looking for recruits.
Some gods approached one or both factions.
The battle destroyed us.
The battle wiped out our creations.
The battle damaged the planet and moons.
The battle left the star intact.
We were reformed intact after the battle.
We regained all spent Essence.
We lost all increased capacity."

"What do these facts mean, then?
We can only make theories and guesses,
But from the information presented to us,
It seems likely that this result could have,
And indeed would have,
Resulted regardless of our actions.
And what's more;
Not everything was destroyed,
And the loss of trust,
And destruction of their own creations,
Is punishment enough for them.
After all,
We did not stop them.
You simply stood idly by.
As did we, though we had a purpose in doing so,
For we believed that the Duality of the conflict was a wondrous thing.
But this result,
Could be predicted by no one,
And retroactive punishment,
Aids no one but those who wish to gain something,
At the expense of others.
And even were the fault theirs,
To punish someone for their first mistake,
Sets a dangerous precedent.
If we are to remake that which was lost,
As a group rather than individuals,
Then we all do it.
It is not a matter of punishment,
But a matter of efficacy.
We would have thought that you,
Out of all the Gods,
Would have understood that, Industria."

[hector13]

"I misspoke; I would rather engender caution in the others, than temper their curiousity. Curiousity leads to discovery, which can only benefit us all. Curiousity without caution, however, can lead to situations such as that which lead to our destruction, and that of everything we had created.

I believe that the curious gods are responsible for bringing destruction upon us; I neither expect or demand that you share that belief, but I believe they should be punished for the foolishness that so very easily could have lead to our non-existence. While I understand your point that this was a mistake, it was an unbelievably costly one. I believe that the gods who did not bring the attention of the elders upon us are being punished for that mistake, and for them to have to pay to fix the consequences of that mistake is unfair.

I will concede, given that we have all our Essence returned, that the fools amongst us should not have to pay for any creation another god made alone. I maintain they should repair the damage to the sun, planet and moons.

I believe you are making assumptions also. The elder beings perhaps would have ignored us had one side not tried to recruit the easily distracted amongst us, and we would not be in this quandary. I would be refining my Opus, sharing with them the desire to create, not having an argument about who is to blame for the ruination of our creations.

I wish to create, it is the driving force of my existence. I do not wish to see my creations destroyed because other gods decide to stare into the abyss, and when it stares back, ask it how it's doing. I would suggest that it is more effective to limit apocalyptic consequences at this point, than pool our resources to create interesting things; for what is the point in creating a masterpiece if it is only going to be destroyed because a fool with no sense of self-preservation invites war into your midst?"

[Stirk]

Hecate looks up from a massive book in the middle of his book bunker, fixing his glasses.

"I have a feeling something happened while I was absorbed in the book....probably not important. It feels like Charta needs to be repaired..."

Charta appears once again, around the other Gods.

"Hello again. Charta's sequel is here, still called Charta. For some reason, the stories have been stalled. This is worrying. We should quickly get this back on track, who does it and why is unimportant."

[Rolepgeek]

"For what reason do you believe this to be true?
In what way is the assumption that those Gods caused this,
Any less an assumption than what you claim ours to be?
From everything we can see,
The factions did not attempt to include us in their war;
We were simply nearby,
Collateral damage.
It was not a matter of whether they ignored us or not,
But a matter of us being in the way,
As a whole.
After all, neither you,
Nor we,
Made any contact with those beings.
And those gods who went to meet them,
Followed them to where they resided, it seems,
When they pledged themselves.
Yet we were still destroyed.
And with no indication of our being targeted;
Simply put, civilian casualties.
What's more,
We would pose questions to you.
If you were to look into the Abyss,
Whilst thinking of what next to make,
And the Abyss looked back and said hello,
Would you ignore it?
To be impolite to such beings,
Or to refuse them without thought,
Is as incautious as joining them without thought.
Additionally,
If your driving force is simply creation,
And not preservation,
What does it matter what happens,
Once the creation has been made?
And what meaning do the creations have,
If there is no risk of loss?
Does their briefness not highlight their existence and creation all the more?
Finally,
We would point out to you,
One among us is a God of Destruction;
Regardless of external forces,
Expecting your creations to last indefinitely,
Is a recipe for disappointment."

"And in response to you, Hecate,
We say only this:
While you may not care for the story's characters,
Or their motivations,
There are those among us,
That find them to be the most important of all."

[Ama]

Itar spends 7 essence to rebuild the lands of his followers, and 10 more essence to recreate everything he already created.

"It would probably go quicker if everyone just contributes 5 essence now rather that wait for a slow council proposal to pass."

[FArgHalfnr]

The flashlings showed so sing of danger. Their appearance did not appear menacing or particularly powerful. There was no way for any of us to expect that interacting with them would bring all of this chaos, if we did indeed caused it. Blaming anyone for speaking to them would make absolutely no sense.

"I misspoke; I would rather engender caution in the others, than temper their curiousity. Curiousity leads to discovery, which can only benefit us all. Curiousity without caution, however, can lead to situations such as that which lead to our destruction, and that of everything we had created.

I believe that the curious gods are responsible for bringing destruction upon us; I neither expect or demand that you share that belief, but I believe they should be punished for the foolishness that so very easily could have lead to our non-existence. While I understand your point that this was a mistake, it was an unbelievably costly one. I believe that the gods who did not bring the attention of the elders upon us are being punished for that mistake, and for them to have to pay to fix the consequences of that mistake is unfair.

I will concede, given that we have all our Essence returned, that the fools amongst us should not have to pay for any creation another god made alone. I maintain they should repair the damage to the sun, planet and moons.

I believe you are making assumptions also. The elder beings perhaps would have ignored us had one side not tried to recruit the easily distracted amongst us, and we would not be in this quandary. I would be refining my Opus, sharing with them the desire to create, not having an argument about who is to blame for the ruination of our creations.

I wish to create, it is the driving force of my existence. I do not wish to see my creations destroyed because other gods decide to stare into the abyss, and when it stares back, ask it how it's doing. I would suggest that it is more effective to limit apocalyptic consequences at this point, than pool our resources to create interesting things; for what is the point in creating a masterpiece if it is only going to be destroyed because a fool with no sense of self-preservation invites war into your midst?"

I believe these events were far enough to make all of us cautious and that any additional punishment would be redundant for this purpose. If any of us decide to ally with one of these beings after what they have done to us, no amount of punishment will be able to change their view.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I spend 10 essence on building a shelter for me to reside incase if void incidences

[IcyTea31]

"We also have a question,
For the god Possaio:
Previously, you'd said you would follow the Codes of Opposition,
Or Parity, as we will call them.
But that you would join Unity;
In what way is this meant to work?
From what we had gathered,
If you are follow the codes of a Pantheon,
You are part of it.
And if you do not,
You are not.
Why, then, were or are you Opposed,
To joining the Opposition?"

"The answer was simple: Possaio had joined Unity before its rules were made to get an iron into the fire. He did not agree with the rules of Unity but those of Opposition, but did not want to betray the pantheon so soon. He appreciated conviction, after all, and wanted to live as he teached. It might have maybe been possible to join both, but that was no longer important. With the fresh start given, Possaio now offered to join Parity, should Tataeveda accept him."

[Rolepgeek]

"That is a sensible reason,
and a generous offer.
We would be happy to accept you,
Possaio of the storied song,
And are glad of your membership,
In this remade Pantheon."

[gman8181]

Einheit looks at the other gods creating mortals and decides that they could benefit from some unity.

Thus he spends 12 essence to create and propagate the Yunifai.

Spoiler: Yunifai (click to show/hide)

Silver floating spheres that travel across the universe spreading the Unity of Einheit. They need not eat, drink, sleep or breath. They are free willed but fervently devout and loyal to the principles of Einheit as his chosen prophet creation. Their primary task is to go from place to place, unifying the the various fragmented mortals into a cohesive force. They start with groups that have the most in common and bring them together. From there they work at Unifying increasingly diverse groups as the initial group grows larger. The Yunifai do not attempt to bring followers of other gods away from them but rather to open the mortals to the prospect of the Unified Pantheon. A philosophy where all groups and all gods should be respected and worked with towards greater goals and a Utopia where all peoples can find contentment in the things they love. The only thing followers of Unity are taught to hate are those who refuse the Philosophy of Unity.

The Yunifai do not have appendages but are capable of physically manipulating things in their general vicinity. Their greatest ability however is their persuasive nature, which allows them to sway even the most stubborn of individuals to their cause.

Yunifai reproduce slowly over time asexually. During this process, a small and less powerful silver sphere is released from the parent. They grow very slowly over time and do not suffer from old age or disease. Because of their slow reproduction and aging, Yunifai are often protected zealously by their followers to prevent them from dying. The loss of even a single Yunifai is met with great sorrow by all followers of Unity because of the great knowledge and leadership abilities they possess.

The Yunifai are dispatched to all places of creation to spread Unity.

I suppose the Pantheon of Unity will have to be remade?

These recent events are rather aggravating but I'm not one to fixate on the past.

*Shrug*