Note: Went to post this and forum maintenance. Guess I'll get around to it tomorrow morning.
Getting introductions out of the way, I'm UXLZ and I am replacing in for Melanthius. I'm not officially an IC, but I'll be trying to give advice regardless. (Take anything I say with a grain of salt however, because I don't have the 'this is definitely true' IC text. An important thing to do in Mafia is have a healthy suspicion of what other people say unless it's confirm-able via cross referencing.)
Before I start, noting that newbies tend to have their opinion massively swayed by relatively minor things... Try not to become certain that someone is scum due to a single post (or town for that matter.) You need to look at a sizable chunk of content and take everything into account.
Fairly long post written in a weird order, so I might repeat myself from time to time. Sorry about that.
Okay then, let's get into stuff... Do note that I'm mostly (not entirely) ignoring D1, so if there's something important there, my apologies if I missed it. It is an
incredibly messy day.
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Jack:Because I watched D1 as six players, including one of the ICs, lynched an incredibly obvious (at least to me) townie.
Is this in your IC voice or your normal voice? If it's IC then I'm obligated to trust that you're telling the truth, but claiming that someone was obviously town
after they've flipped is mostly empty air.
By this point, the idea that roo should be lynched even if town was getting pretty strong, but at least those voting him leaned towards him being scum. Not so with Nerjin, who takes no position on roo's townhood or scumhood, and just votes for him because he's damaging town. Not a good vote at all. Uncaring about the alignment of the lynched, and absolutely positionless. Troubling.
That's a pretty bad sign if even the IC is throwing his vote onto someone without any reason aside from 'hurting town.' Now, admittedly at the point where he voted for Roo it was fairly likely he was going to be lynched, but it seems quite bandwagony. Nerjin's an IC so I can't really see why he'd vote for someone so lazily. (Newbies can be excused though perhaps only once, because they don't really know any better.)
Cryxis' and ggamer's votes are pretty abysmal, but as they're new I'll gloss over it. Do note you two that I won't be forgiving if you do something similar again; once can be put down to ignorance, twice is too often to be unintentional.
Everyone: I would love to see your thoughts on D1 and the roowagon votes.
I can barely even get started on D1 it's so messy... My eyes just sort of glaze over. If you think it's necessary I can look at it more closely, but my main guess is that most of the info I'll glean will be 'everyone is new and has no clue what they're doing.'
My thoughts on the Roo votes, summarized, are this:
Peradon: As you said, reasonable, I can't see anything wrong with it.
Hector: Like Peradon's, reasonable.
Gamer: Reasons are starting to slip at this point on the wagon. I'd like him to point out where Roo was getting overdefensive.
OScienceG: I dislike the 'convince us you're of benefit to the Town' reasoning because even useless players, if town, still stop scum from winning just by their existence. However, at this point he's flipped so it's mostly pointless to look into it further.
Nerjin and Cryxis: Mentioned above. I'm highly suspicious of Nerjin at this point (especially considering his inactivity) and he's probably my strongest 'instant' scum read, but I'll have to do more reading to really know for sure.
PPE: Reading more, it seems he's swamped with stuff IRL. I still dislike that he chose to vote for Roo regardless, but I guess that's somewhat of an explanation...?
Regardless, he said he should have more time tomorrow... I hope he doesn't fail to deliver.
Cryxis' vote is pretty incredibly bad but as a newbie I guess it gets a pass.
it'd be a pretty dumb play for scum to be that disruptive
Some people try to take refuge in audacity (it never works.) I disagree with Jack saying that lynching Roo was terrible (though I'll admit the only players I've seen act quite so ridiculous have been town), it was (in my opinion) the correct choice at the
time. Mislynching is never a good thing, though, so it's bad but only in hindsight. (Lynching people just because you think they're hurting the town even if you don't think they're actually scum is also a bad thing.)
vote Hector because he seems to be constantly accusing me of being scum and he is tipping my suspicion.
I'll let the OMGUS slip for now since you're new, but if you're going to continue voting for Hector I want to see some better reasons than 'he's suspecting me.'
Bit of advice: Asking a lot of questions is a good thing. We want lots of questions.
Well... Sensible questions. RVS is over so the questions should probably be game-related, about things that caught your attention and so on.
I didnt think about the lynch in those terms, but I guess you have a point. Right now, the most scummy would be ggamer and Nerjin. ggamer because he didnt give a good reason for voting
Why ggamer and not Cryxis? Cryxis' vote had an even worse reason. I hope you haven't discounted him as scum purely due to your trick question, since I simply cannot imagine anyone ever falling for that anyway.
Hector13: I dont like the way you were trying to buddy up to me. It felt a lot like the last BM we played. You pretty much said that I coulde be trusted because I'm active. This seems like a stupid excuse to me, thus the vote.
Active players do tend to be town more often, but if he's townreading you based on that... It's not a very good idea.
More importantly however, you say that he's buddying you, but where? If you're going to vote for someone, offer some evidence. It adds a lot more weight. Interpretations of buddying is also something purely subjective, so I wouldn't build a case entirely on that, though that's your prerogative.