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Of course!

11 (20.4%)

You betcha.

15 (27.8%)

Definitely.

12 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 20

[Pencil_Art]

I'd say no shipping until our characters actually get to know each other. Just me.

[PrivateNomad]

So, why the hell can you have different amounts of spirit when spells just use a percent of it?

[kj1225]

Well, looks like there's going to be a punchy suit wearing guy fight.

[Empiricist]

Wait, so how does Magic factor into healing moves?

[kj1225]

It doesn't. Apparently.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Spoiler: Shui MacCellan (click to show/hide)

Name: Shui MacClellan
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Description: Shui is taller than average, though not by much. She has an oval face, and her features mark her out as someone half-asian, half-european. Her long, silky hair is black in colour, and her eyes are an icy blue. She has almost perfect posture, and is very attractive if somewhat unapproachable due to her harsh stare. When she isn't wearing her school uniform, which is always impeccable, she favours the standard blouse and skirt combo though she is comfortable wearing pants if needed. Her waredrobe is on the expensive side, and is always neat and perfect for she takes personal hygiene and grooming very seriously, almost obessively so.
Persona: Kunlun
Weapon of Choice: Fly Whisk

Spoiler: Kunlun (click to show/hide)

Name: Kunlun
Description: A small creature, with the body of an eagle, head of a rooster, tail of a fish and a tortose shell on its back. The fish tail has a slit in the end so that it forms two points. Its plummage is primarily bright yellow, but it also has white, green and black feathers in the tip of its wings and its neck and legs are ringed with red ones. Despite its odd appearance Kunlun has a dignified air about it, and its movements are very graceful and majestic.
Arcana: Empress
Affinity: Healing
Secondary Affinity: Fire
 
Stats:
Endurance: 35
Strength: 5
Magic: 25
Spirit: 35

Skills:
Dia: Heals a base 5% HP. 9 SP cost.
Patra: Heals Fear in one ally. 9 SP cost.
Agi: Deals a base 20 Fire damage. 9 SP cost.

There. Done.

[Empiricist]

Right. Uh, so what do I do for my character who's meant to specialize in physical damage and healing without unintentionally abusing the hell out of this system?

[USEC_OFFICER]

Abuse the hell out of the system anyways? Bugger if I know. You're going to get a lot of SP from a high spirit stat anyways so... Might as well stick with your original idea and try to tone down the abuse a bit?

[Empiricist]

Spoiler: Branson Desmond Mathers (click to show/hide)

• Gender: Male
  
• Age: 16
  
• Description: This aloof guy has large brown eyes that are like two patches of dried blood. His fine, wavy, gold hair is worn in a style that reminds you of a cobra's hood. He is short and has a feminine build. His skin is china-white. He has hollow cheeks and small ears. His clothing tend to be rather featureless, bearing no prominent designs or particularly pertinent patterns, they seem to be more focused on comfort and pocket space than fashion or specific styles.
  
• Persona: Whaitere
  
• Weapon of Choice: Close Range Pierce. Currently an Apache Pistol.
  

Spoiler: Whaitere (click to show/hide)

• Description: An empty cloak with sides that stretch out like a pair of wings. Vibrant, prismatic inscriptions are inlaid on its otherwise pure black exterior in a stitch line pattern to form a "spine" of sorts which holds the vertically bisected entity together. From beneath the stitch, a flexible blade protrudes, resembling a katana with kobuse lamination. Near the top of its form, on it's white linen-lined interior is a gaping maw with a volume greater than what should be possible, with jaws lined with small, sharp teeth that resemble the hooks of coathangers.
  
• Arcana: The Hanged Man
  
• Affinity: Slash
  
• Secondary Affinity: Healing
  
• Statistics:
  
  • Endurance: 35
    
  • Strength: 53
    
  • Magic: 0
    
  • Spirit: 15
    
• Skills:
  
  • Cleave: Deals 15 base Slash damage. 7% HP cost.
    
  • Regenerate 1: Heals 3% HP per turn. Passive.
    
  • Patra: Cures Fear in one ally. 9 SP cost.
    
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[SOLDIER First]

Reserved.
I shall allow the alleged greatness of Persona envelop my mortal being.

[MrVoid]

Spoiler: Warning Long and Numbery (click to show/hide)

The way that the damage dealing abilities is worded seems as though its just a +20-24 damage to whatever attack you are using. Since anyone with a STR of 35 is going to average 10-ish damage against a defense 35 enemy, a +20-24 damage boost may prove a significant boon.

That said, the party has between 200 and 350 hp. That's an average of approximately 35 rounds of combat against an hp 350 enemy if we ignore vulnerabilities and the possible +20 damage boost.  Combat will probably last about 4-12 rounds if these are included.   I initially designed this system so that combat lasts, at max, about 5 rounds, unless someone was a cheesewad and decided to boost their health to an absurd level.

So I suppose that if he increases one of the damage modifiers, either the flat *5 modifier or the *d50, to *10 or *d100 respectively, unmodified combat will probably average 7 rounds.  This is due to the fact that an unmodified attack will average around 50 damage against an endurance 15, making combat for someone like me (who only has poison ability and wind affinity) last approximately 7 turns against an unaffected 350. 

Of course, this is specifically compared to our one 350, against our mostly 200-300 hp group combat will still last approximately  9-21 rounds if there are no applicable resistances or vulnerabilities on the old system.  If we use the old system, the fastest that combat can take would be 3 rounds.  Modifying the system as suggested would shorten average player combat to around 3-5 rounds and modified combat to 1 round.

There is also the issue of the ability to completely ignore either the magic or strength stats.  While I'm not suggesting that everyone be a JoAT, Empiricist's 300 health/ 187 max damage with almost no detriment to his fighting ability as a result of having a 5 in magic might be something to consider.  Though it might lengthen combat somewhat I would suggest making defenses a function of exclusively STR and MAG, most likely multiplied by two, for their respective damages or a END + STR and MAG + SPI.

Another possible change, depending on whether or not you can die from having no SPI left and the regularity of SPI damaging attacks, would be to add an additional stat regulating the ability to use physical skills instead of END.  If you cannot die through the expenditure of SPI, then that stat should be a necessity and would also be an acceptable place to put the physical defense instead.

Spoiler: TL;DR (click to show/hide)

Combat doesn't quite work right, END is currently OP. 

Suggested fixes:
Damage dealt: (Appropriate Stat x 5) x d100 (as a percentage) or (Appropriate Stat x 10) x d50 (as a percentage) or lightly reduced if people want to avoid 1 hit kills (might be avoided with adjustments to Defense)

Damage taken= Damage dealt to you - 2(MAG or STR as appropriate) or Damage taken= Damage dealt to you - (MAG + SPI or STR + END as appropriate) or  Damage taken= Damage dealt to you - (SPI or New Stat as appropriate)

New stat for physical skill regulation?

END should not be the sole source for defense as well as well as HP.  Same goes for SPI if it acts as a form of health.

The skills might want to be reworded for clarity.  As some people, myself included, do not know if they are used as an attack or as part of an attack action.

I spent far too long writing this up and considering what I would consider the best courses possible of action.  You are entirely free to completely ignore this as the ravings of a madman.  I hope that this is clear, concise and causes no confusion.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Well, I knew this might happen.

I was also actually considering changing the defence modifiers to (MAG+SPI or END+STR). The damage modifier does need to be changed, I agree. I'll change the first modifier to x10.

You explicitly cannot die from using Physical attacks. You simply won't be able to use more health than you have to attack. You will be given healing items and you do have a medic or three anyway. You also have weapons with which to beat enemies with- useful for when your attacks are resisted.

The wording is correct; it's a +20 to the damage you would've dealt. I've done some calculations (using Void's suggestion):

Given an enemy of about 30 SPI (300 HP), with no multipliers, Agi from a Magic user (say, 30 MAG) should deal, assuming an average of 20 MAG, about 45 damage. Fire Boost boosts that to 56 damage, and fire weakness to 62. That should be alright for combat speed- assuming not every enemy is weak to fire-, although it might need some tweaking.

As for defences, you will also get some armor that deducts a flat amount from the damage taken overall. Durability shouldn't be too much of a concern just yet. Likewise, the skill trees should have skills which boost stats anyway.

Healing will probably receive an overhaul anyway. Might reduce the percentage it heals and add a different calculation to it, so hold tight. Likewise, all Magic spells might receive a change in cost from a percentage to a flat cost.

Everyone awaiting move choices, you'll be given them soon as I get out of bed.

EDIT: Healing calculation is now Base Healing + (Mag x 2) x d50%. Dia now only heals 5% to compensate.
All non-Physical skills now cost a fixed amount of SP. This is to benefit Spirit stats in Magic users.
Anything that cost 7% SP now costs 9 SP.
Anything that cost 12% SP now costs 12 SP.

Please make the appropriate edits. Again, I apologise for the inconvenience, this is the first time I'm testing this system after adapting it.

[Empiricist]

Uh... could you please explain the healing calculation again? I don't really understand the notation used >__<

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Explanation:
Dia heals 5% health on the target.

That 5% health is your Base- what the spell would have healed if you had, say, 0 MAG.

(Mag x 2) is your Mag, obviously, and the d50% is a d50 roll, applied as a percentage. Multiply the result of Magx2 by the percentage to get what your magic stat adds to the healing.

Add the result of that to the base to get the total HP healed.

A normal calculation, assuming a target HP of 300, a d50 roll of 25 and a user MAG of 30:
15 + [(30x2) x 25%)]= 15 +15 =30 HP healed.

[Empiricist]

Ah okay, thanks. I didn't know what that d50% thing meant.