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[dennislp3]

probably never considering DF 42.03 is out

[DVNO]

Hey Button,

I know you're probably super busy preparing a release for this version, but I thought I'd ask any way if it would be at all possible to make a fix that makes at least cage traps only buildable with metal components. The things are OP to the point where it would be pointless to use anything else. At least this way cage traps would take more resources than with the near infinite supply of surface wood, and make traps more of a mid-game option.

Also, the idea a Dragon can be contained in a wood cage just boggles my brain meat.

[Vattic]

DVNO: That would require hard coded reactions be removed. I think this was possible with DF Hack. Personally I'd just use a house rule against using them.

[Button]

Probably a question asked by many on other places, but when will 42.02 version of this come out? (dat grammar...) really, need, it...
Jerry

probably never considering DF 42.03 is out

Har har

If everything works out perfectly, next weekend (the 19th or 20th). If not, probably the weekend after. (Almost) certainly before the new year.

Sorry this is taking so long; there's a big project at work that's going live first thing in January, so I've been wrapped up in the last few feverish weeks of finishing touches, integration testing, and praying that we didn't miss anything.

Suggestion for the next one: [EDIBLE_COOKED] on the blood template so those barrels of blood the caravans keep bringing are actually good for something. Who's up for black pudding?

Not sure if that's vanilla enough for the base mod, but could definitely see putting it in a module.

Hey Button,

I know you're probably super busy preparing a release for this version, but I thought I'd ask any way if it would be at all possible to make a fix that makes at least cage traps only buildable with metal components.

Sorry, but as Vattic says, that's not something you can change without DFHack.

[Naryar]

Hello,

Can I use your Modest Mod creature raw modifications as a basis for a creature mod of mine ? I like what you have done with the creature raws, and generally do similar stuff in my creature raws. I will of course give all credit where it's due.

Hey Button,

I know you're probably super busy preparing a release for this version, but I thought I'd ask any way if it would be at all possible to make a fix that makes at least cage traps only buildable with metal components. The things are OP to the point where it would be pointless to use anything else. At least this way cage traps would take more resources than with the near infinite supply of surface wood, and make traps more of a mid-game option.

Also, the idea a Dragon can be contained in a wood cage just boggles my brain meat.

You can simply choose to build them scarcely ?

[Button]

Hello,

Can I use your Modest Mod creature raw modifications as a basis for a creature mod of mine ? I like what you have done with the creature raws, and generally do similar stuff in my creature raws. I will of course give all credit where it's due.

By all means. You probably want to credit the Modest Mod rather than me, as many of the creature modifications are from Igfig's original.

[DVNO]

You can simply choose to build them scarcely ?

I can and I do, I was just planning to use Modest Mod for a succession game.

[Dirst]

You can simply choose to build them scarcely ?

I can and I do, I was just planning to use Modest Mod for a succession game.

Succession games can have house rules.

[GenericOverusedName]

As far as I know, you can't change that in particular because it's hardbaked into the game itself, not in the RAWs. Modest Mod only has some basic RAW file changes. You won't be able to do it without dfhack weirdness (and even then may not be able to), or just enforcing a house rule. Embark somewhere without a bunch of trees to encourage proper behaviour?

[Jiri Petru]

I've just rediscovered this mod, and thanks for doing this. I never liked mods that add stuff because I believe DF is already so complex that we can indefinitely improve it just by expanding the already present mechanisms - Toady doesn't really utilise his own features to 100%.

Anyway, a random thought:

Hey Button,

I know you're probably super busy preparing a release for this version, but I thought I'd ask any way if it would be at all possible to make a fix that makes at least cage traps only buildable with metal components. The things are OP to the point where it would be pointless to use anything else. At least this way cage traps would take more resources than with the near infinite supply of surface wood, and make traps more of a mid-game option.

Also, the idea a Dragon can be contained in a wood cage just boggles my brain meat.

I used to solve the overpowered cage traps by adding TRAPAVOID quite liberally to all sorts of creatures - giants, dragons and other stuff that's simply too big for cages, and to all intelligent and humanoid creatures, even goblins, so cages are no longer the ultimate solution to everything but merely a way to catch normal animals.

Perhaps a suggestion for including into ModestMod?

[Jiri Petru]

Oh by the way, this change might no longer be needed:

Seeds which grow on trees have hulls, and so can be gathered by an herbalist.

Because in 42.03, Toady fixed this bug.

[Button]

I used to solve the overpowered cage traps by adding TRAPAVOID quite liberally to all sorts of creatures - giants, dragons and other stuff that's simply too big for cages, and to all intelligent and humanoid creatures, even goblins, so cages are no longer the ultimate solution to everything but merely a way to catch normal animals.

Perhaps a suggestion for including into ModestMod?

Maybe a module, but probably not the base mod. Cage traps are OP, but the only way to disable them for a given creature is to make all traps ineffective against that creature, and that's way overkill.

Modding is like surgery: with care and a scalpel, you can fix problems and even make improvements; but if all you have available is a broadsword, it's important to exercise restraint.

Oh by the way, this change might no longer be needed:

Seeds which grow on trees have hulls, and so can be gathered by an herbalist.

Because in 42.03, Toady fixed this bug.

Yep! Saw it, tested it, made the appropriate changes.

***

I'm playtesting now. Unless Toady makes some major changes in the next week, the mod should be ready for release shortly after Christmas.

[Dirst]

Modding is like surgery: with care and a scalpel, you can fix problems and even make improvements; but if all you have available is a broadsword, it's important to exercise restraint.

Have you perhaps forgotten that we are discussing Dwarf Fortress?  What is this "restraint" of which you speak? 

[Button]

Modding is like surgery: with care and a scalpel, you can fix problems and even make improvements; but if all you have available is a broadsword, it's important to exercise restraint.

Have you perhaps forgotten that we are discussing Dwarf Fortress?  What is this "restraint" of which you speak? 

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[Romeofalling]

Apologies if this has been asked before.

Do I need to run world gen after installing Modest Mod, or can I use it with an existing fort/world?