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utunnels

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All cut gems are large gems
« on: February 01, 2015, 05:49:13 am »

I have a problem.
I wanted to build a green glass gem window and already cut 2 small green glass gems.
But after 8 9 10 11 cut green glass jobs, I got no more small gem.

What is the chance? I think I'm just wasting logs for nothing...maybe I should fire the gem cutter. ::)



Well, finally got a "cut green glass".
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 06:04:08 am by utunnels »
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 06:04:53 am »

It's random. Large gems are made more frequently with skilled gem cutters IIRC, so yes, firing him should fix the problem.
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2015, 06:09:22 am »

It's random. Large gems are made more frequently with skilled gem cutters IIRC, so yes, firing him should fix the problem.
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2015, 06:10:51 am »

Sod the unions, we need to increase productivity!
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2015, 06:13:40 am »

Well, finally got a "cut green glass".

Well, if you have access to glass making, why not just make glass windows?
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2015, 06:15:10 am »

Well, finally got a "cut green glass".

Well, if you have access to glass making, why not just make glass windows?
I want to make some fancy gem window animations. :P
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2015, 03:55:42 pm »

Well, finally got a "cut green glass".
Well, if you have access to glass making, why not just make glass windows?
I want to make some fancy gem window animations. :P

Oooh, I see. Makes sense now.  :)
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2015, 11:43:37 pm »

It's random. Large gems are made more frequently with skilled gem cutters IIRC, so yes, firing him should fix the problem.
This DFwiki page says that 5% of cut gems become large gems / crafts. 33% if you are cutting raw glass. The skill changes the value of the result, while the ratio of return stays constant.
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2015, 11:48:14 pm »

It's random. Large gems are made more frequently with skilled gem cutters IIRC, so yes, firing him should fix the problem.
This DFwiki page says that 5% of cut gems become large gems / crafts. 33% if you are cutting raw glass. The skill changes the value of the result, while the ratio of return stays constant.
Okay, thanks. So he's just really unlucky then.
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 12:00:34 am »

Well I think maybe the RNG had played a joke, or it was not reseted for some reason.
The chance for 11 large gems is less than 1/2000 1/200000000000000 if 5% is correct...
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2015, 01:01:23 am »

In the OP you say you were cutting green glass which has a 33% chance; Still unlucky.
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2015, 01:07:52 am »

33%

Oh yeah, I saw the numbers in wiki. Didn't notice them before.
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2015, 12:40:10 pm »

Does the gem cutter happen to really like large gems?  I don't know if that changes their production rate, but it seems plausible.
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Re: All cut gems are large gems
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2015, 11:05:57 pm »

It's random. Large gems are made more frequently with skilled gem cutters IIRC, so yes, firing him should fix the problem.
This DFwiki page says that 5% of cut gems become large gems / crafts. 33% if you are cutting raw glass. The skill changes the value of the result, while the ratio of return stays constant.
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