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[Vendayn]

My guess is, if you don't like Rome 2 in its current state...and never liked it...almost certainly won't like Attila. I'm pretty sure its going to be how Rome 2 is currently today, but different setting and a bunch of new features and probably some improvements to other things.

[Antioch]

The mongols and timurids in medieval 2 were interesting, at least when you didn't abuse bridges and castles/towns with cannon towers. The huns in barbarian invasion suffered from being completely incapable of winning a siege battle. The 3 towns and 1 major city per region. is a good improvement to reduce the dominance of siege battles.

For the rest Rome2 was totally lacklustre. Uninspired troop design, awkward battle pacing, completely uninspired and unavoidable civil war mechanic. Also don't like the "only generals can move armies" thing. Part of the charm of rome1 (although too easy in vanilla) was that you went on a campaign and because you took casualties you reinforced your army with whatever you could get your hands on, meaning you didn't always have class A troops to fight with.

[Vendayn]

Well, tomorrow is the release date. I'll probably avoid first day release (I won't be home anyway till Wednesday or late tomorrow), but I'll see what the reviewers on youtube are saying about it. See what the general opinion is. Generally I avoid that kinda stuff, but I'm curious what people say about it since Rome 2 was received badly. I know a lot didn't like Rome 2 at release, but I really enjoyed it...so I'll probably enjoy Attila just as much if not more.

[dennislp3]

I think it was less people not enjoying it and more people being extremely pissed about it being in such a buggy beta like state on release..


That was my opinion...I have always liked it...just irritates me when I drop $60 or whatever on a game and it's released in such a shoddy state

[Vendayn]

I think it was less people not enjoying it and more people being extremely pissed about it being in such a buggy beta like state on release..


That was my opinion...I have always liked it...just irritates me when I drop $60 or whatever on a game and it's released in such a shoddy state

Well, I guess I'm probably used to it. Every game I've ever played had really bad release. WoW was so buggy, MMOs before and after almost always launch so buggy. The only one I personally played at release that was good was lord of the rings online, but it was such a BORING MMO with almost nothing to do that it probably explains the good release.

The worst MMO release I played was Anarchy Online, now there is a release one should have avoided It was so bad, local stores were giving the game away for FREE...a WEEK (one week) after release ROFL

Funny enough, the only releases that come out to be stable...I actually almost always find the game so boring and stop playing and a waste of my money. But the ones that release with problems, I enjoy them a lot more (especially after the problems are fixed). Exceptions of course.

The funny thing is, after every game and MMO release...EVERY release day (with a few exceptions) is filled with people complaining on almost EVERY game release. So, I expect the same for Attila, because everyone always complains about a games release. I am definitely avoiding any Attila forums and fansites

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Jeez, I'm still raving over napoleon total war.

[Vendayn]

Jeez, I'm still raving over napoleon total war.

I still play Empire Total War I actually like that one a lot. Most don't like it though.

[umiman]

Pffft, who needs Attila.

I loaded up Shogun 2 and jumped into a very hard campaign. I forgot how badly the AI cheats in this. Neverending doomstacks of the most powerful units in the game. 12 to 1 odds no big deal.

I wonder if the hordes in Attila will basically be just that. Rome 2's very hard difficulty didn't really have the broken cheaty-ness of Shogun 2, though it did still cheat a fair bit.

[Majestic7]

I, too, like Empire: TW! Mainly because of the era and the cannons, plus it brought the sweet automatic replacements in the game, removing a whole lot of annoying micro. I hope we get 30-year war TW one day, the transition period between steel and gunpowder is interesting.

See, there must be at least three of us!

[Vendayn]

Looks like its released on steam. Noticed it available at 2 am PST time. I'm installing it now, and looks like some other people have already got in the game.

[sebcool]

Don't have it yet, but from the initial steam reviews, people like it a lot. The new features seem to be good, and the main gripes people have seem to be performance (it's mentioned in a review that it needs updated drivers, so it may be that. AMD cards also seem to suffer, but don't quote me on that), chaotic battles and some minor niggles, which will hopefully be fixed once the patches and mods start rolling out.

I'll definitely buy this once a few patches are out and I've seen what happens to the game long term, since it's still pretty damn early (also waiting for the almighty mods).

Edit: Apparently, the performance problems are a bit hit and miss. Some claim to be having them, while others say it runs great.

[scriver]

It's a bot funny that they chose this as the next game because to me Rome 2 was already quite the "Stepped Nomads OP" experience. I really like the Parthians, and their horse archers just basically just... Atilla'd all over the place. Except when fighting real stepped nomads. I never really developed a good, non-Phyrric strategy against them that wasn't "create buffer states on their borders and ignore".

[sebcool]

Horse archers have pretty much always been OP. It was true in the original Rome, Medieval 2, and now Rome 2. I guess it's just the way they work (hell, they were pretty OP in real life).

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I honestly just want muskets back.

[Teneb]

Don't have it yet, but from the initial steam reviews, people like it a lot. The new features seem to be good, and the main gripes people have seem to be performance (it's mentioned in a review that it needs updated drivers, so it may be that. AMD cards also seem to suffer, but don't quote me on that), chaotic battles and some minor niggles, which will hopefully be fixed once the patches and mods start rolling out.

I'll definitely buy this once a few patches are out and I've seen what happens to the game long term, since it's still pretty damn early (also waiting for the almighty mods).

Edit: Apparently, the performance problems are a bit hit and miss. Some claim to be having them, while others say it runs great.

I had to tweak the options a bit to get it to run smoothly, but it doesn't seem to have any glaring errors. That said, I do get the "you need to update drivers" message... despite having double checked that I have the latest drivers. All options at maximum get me 20-30 fps, while what I set gives me 50-60. So pretty happy.