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[Foamybeard]

Hey all. I'm wondering if Elven Tree-Diplomats come to Fortresses in this version, and if so, is it possible to mod them so that they also offer trade agreements? (I want to get a breeding pair of Giant Leopards and Elephants without having to tame them myself.) If they don't come, is it possible to mod them to come and bring trade agreements?

[vjmdhzgr]

Elven diplomats were recently added back in. To allow your dwarves to make trade agreements with them simply add the token       [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS] to the elven diplomat. If you don't know how to find the code for the elven diplomat, it is in the raws folder, then objects, then entity_default. Scroll down past all the dwarven nobles until you reach [ENTITY:FOREST] which is the code for the elf civilization. Scroll down until you get to their nobles, one of which is the diplomat.

[Foamybeard]

Ah, thank you! That was what I thought I had to do, but I wanted to ask before I fiddled around with my Raws. Thanks!

[Knight Otu]

[RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS]

The correct token is [RESPONSIBILITY:TRADE], actually. [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS] is for your own civ only.

[Badger Storm]

I am so doing this once I get my current raws working smoothly.  So, will [RESPONSIBILITY:TRADE] make them "take orders," so to speak, allowing me to request elephants and alligators?

[scamtank]

Whichever it was, yes. I think I wiki-wrote the thing that Otu is basing his opinion on back in the v34 days, but I honestly don't know now.

[Knight Otu]

It's still true - a diplomat-equivalent with [RESPONSIBILITY:TRADE] pretty much just left my fortress with a request for some predatory animals.

[vjmdhzgr]

"Found on outpost liaison. Position will live in the civilization capital and travels with the caravan to make trade agreements with any settlements that it visits, whether they are domestic or foreign. Also reports recent news." The wiki on [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS]. Also, I'm pretty sure I've made this mod myself and it worked. I checked Masterwork and Masterwork uses the colony version for its guild representatives and such, and they work fine so [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS] definitely works.

[Knight Otu]

"Found on outpost liaison. Position will live in the civilization capital and travels with the caravan to make trade agreements with any settlements that it visits, whether they are domestic or foreign. Also reports recent news." The wiki on [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS]. Also, I'm pretty sure I've made this mod myself and it worked. I checked Masterwork and Masterwork uses the colony version for its guild representatives and such, and they work fine so [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS] definitely works.

I've just finished testing, and the same position I mentioned above that arrives with [RESPONSIBILITY:TRADE] does not arrive with [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS], and another position with [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS] that would have arrived with an earlier caravan if it were true also did not arrive.

There is one way I believe it could happen through raw modding - if both civilizations are available to play as civilizations, since through a bug they always send caravans if they have progress triggers. As for Masterwork, I suppose DFHack could be doing something as well, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know.

[vjmdhzgr]

"Found on outpost liaison. Position will live in the civilization capital and travels with the caravan to make trade agreements with any settlements that it visits, whether they are domestic or foreign. Also reports recent news." The wiki on [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS]. Also, I'm pretty sure I've made this mod myself and it worked. I checked Masterwork and Masterwork uses the colony version for its guild representatives and such, and they work fine so [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS] definitely works.

I've just finished testing, and the same position I mentioned above that arrives with [RESPONSIBILITY:TRADE] does not arrive with [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS], and another position with [RESPONSIBILITY:ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS] that would have arrived with an earlier caravan if it were true also did not arrive.

There is one way I believe it could happen through raw modding - if both civilizations are available to play as civilizations, since through a bug they always send caravans if they have progress triggers. As for Masterwork, I suppose DFHack could be doing something as well, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know.

Hmmm. I've checked Masterwork and they actually had both TRADE and ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS. I'll investigate myself, but I'm sure it's worked for me before. Maybe it was because I gave the same noble both MAKE_TOPIC_AGREEMENTS/MAKE_PEACE_AGREEMENTS and ESTABLISH_COLONY_TRADE_AGREEMENTS. I'll try out a few different combinations on an otherwise vanilla game and see what happens.

[scamtank]

I stuck RESPONSIBILITY:TRADE only on my elves' acolytes. Sure enough, one rolled by with the caravan and extended me greetings on behalf of the Merchants' Guild. There was lots to discuss, apparently.