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Rafe

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Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« on: January 28, 2015, 01:23:41 pm »

What it basically says, still have some goods stuck on the platform and I'd rather not have to deconstruct the platform to get them back. I've gone though a  period where 15 of my dwarfs were idle so i figure if the things were going to move they would have at that point. As far as i'm concerned they are stuck
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2015, 01:24:54 pm »

Dwarves are kinda lazy about clearing off your goods.  Its still yours, but this is a compelling reason to make your main Depot inside.

  Forbid all your food in your stockpile; watch how fast they go to the Depot to take the food.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2015, 03:05:29 pm »

It could be that they are still "pending" go tp the trade depot "q" and any items that say "pending" or "trading" press enter.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2015, 03:08:17 pm »

It could also be you have no place to put the things in the depot. What is still there? Do you have stockpile space for those things? Is there a path from the depot to the stockpiles? Are you using burrows of any kind? If so, do you also have a burrow covering the entire map? If you have an alert burrow that does not include the trade depot, it will prevent dwarves from taking things from the depot even when the alert is not active, unless you also have a burrow that does encompass the depot.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 04:49:57 pm »

Dorfs are extremely sluggish at moving some things, while others going to the same stockpile are hauled off. I frequently still have the gypsum plaster from previous years' trade in the depot when the caravan returns. When dumping stuff, some kinds of items just remains forever at the dump site, even as the other things are hauled off.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 10:24:07 am »

Gypsum plaster bag should go to bag (furniture) pile.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 01:19:25 pm »

Well, my workshop quantum stockpile stores everything that isn't stored in dedicated stockpiles, so it includes all furniture, and the plaster eventually gets there, it just takes an eternity.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 07:27:51 pm »

Yeah i figured it out. The problem wasn't obvious. I had shells littered all over the trade depot that i couldn't remove. The problem is that, while the shells had a dedicated stockpile, shells do not stick nor do they fit into bins or barrels. So Yeah it was kinda counter-intuitive given that most stuff seems to have a container. In case your interested these are little bitty pond turtle shells.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 08:24:50 pm »

I feel your pain, my refuse pile is 95% mussel shells.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 01:07:36 am »

OKay i started   a new world just to test the fishing industry. I only had my dwarfs fish. They were  accompanied by 1 cleaner(fishery) and 1 shell carver at a (craftdwarfs). What seems to be happening is that the fishery sequesters or hoards all the shells, it will not release shells. A craft dwarf working will take the shells from the fishery and immediately make crowns or earrings but no haulers will remove shells from the fishery into a dedicated stockpile.

I'm guessing this is a bug but it's certainly not fatal and you can always check your volume of shells in your stocks +e menu.

But yeah i got the stockpile to work once taking shells but i cannot replicate it anymore even in a fresh replay where i'm deliberately trying to focus on that part of the production chain only
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 01:44:51 am »

You cant have the workshop feed a stockpile specifically?
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 04:13:21 pm »

You cant have the workshop feed a stockpile specifically?

Thanks to you i went back with a copy of my embark and focused on single task fishing industry for a third time rather than try to minmax 100 things while building/painstakingly planning a future dinning room. A lot has to be said in that this has freed up quite a bit of attention to learn the interface and watch individual dwarfs while others descend into misery because they don't have beds or tables. I finally started playing around with the orders menu - o key- and there was my solution. 

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Most notably, dwarves will not dump items that are in a tile marked "Above Ground" unless you allow them to (o->r->o).

The moment i switched this bones began to fill my refuse pile. I guess not specifying that my fishery workshop was right next to the  stream i fish from was the problem. Glad that is solved.

Though i suppose this creates other problems in that if something is at the edge of the map and dies a dwarf will run out to retrieve it wasting time and exposing himself to hostiles.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2015, 07:02:32 pm »

At least they leave. My problem is if the caravans are disturbed by some birds, they won't leave at all, unless I forbid or deconstruct the trade depot. Either way has a side effect of drpping some of the trading goods.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2015, 03:24:04 am »

You can loo'k' at the corpse and 'f'orbid it if you're having problems with individual corpses.
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Re: Trade platform will not clear of my goods after traders depart
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2015, 07:51:50 am »

I feel your pain, my refuse pile is 95% mussel shells.

Glad it's not just me!  :)
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