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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
- 71 (27.7%)
I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 114 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (23.8%)

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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 664160 times)

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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6120 on: May 17, 2017, 04:02:32 pm »

Based on the other "articles", it's an Onion-like :P
Still pretty funny, though.

Looks like baptism is supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime thing, by most accounts.  But this wouldn't be a "genuine" one, since the baby's not giving informed consent :P  So sometimes people get "re" baptized (technically for the only time) if they feel their previous ceremony didn't count, IE they were too young or just mistaken or something.

Some groups think that baby baptism is binding and it's wrong to ever baptize that person again, though.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6121 on: May 17, 2017, 06:23:15 pm »

My Church baptised me when I was a baby, wasn't baptised again. I was, however, later "confirmed."

Gotta say, it was ironic to say the whole I believe thing when I most certainly did not, but whatever.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6122 on: May 18, 2017, 02:46:29 am »

I was never baptized as a child, but the church I joined after getting out of high school believed, not just that you could be baptized more than once, but that you should be regularly baptized in order to resolidify your trust/faith/whatever with god. Which I think is a neat concept, if you're up for that.

...That said, they baptized me once, and I fell away from that group before doing it a second time. That was a long time ago, and my beliefs are way different now.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6123 on: May 18, 2017, 04:14:09 am »

Oh, hold on. You believed in a mixture of Christianity and reincarnation, right?

Personally I prefer the notion of unlimited afterlife. At least with that you're assured of still being yourself.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6124 on: May 18, 2017, 05:20:44 am »

I'm going to hedge my bets on that one and just aim for immortality.

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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6125 on: May 18, 2017, 12:35:41 pm »

Wanna collaborate?
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6126 on: May 18, 2017, 12:47:57 pm »

But all your friends and family would die, leaving you alone and sad in an empty universe of sadness and pain.....

Yea, only joking. Sign me up too. Can I also immortalise my dog? It's more ethical to do animals first anyway. At least we've (supposedly) got heaven. They've got nothing, poor sods.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6127 on: May 18, 2017, 12:58:57 pm »

I was gonna beat you to death with a giant stick labelled "This is not a genie wish or magical talisman, all people can use it."
But you fixed it, so you get to live.

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For now.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6128 on: May 18, 2017, 01:01:10 pm »

Immortality is not possible. Universe's heat death is unavoidable. (or at least, no known physics will avert it.)

The best you can do is live "A very , very, very, long time."
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6129 on: May 18, 2017, 01:10:15 pm »

Thanks, that was a very helpful comment. Now that I know I cannot live literally forever, I will instead just shrug and live the 90 or so years I naturally get. :V

we've been at the whole physics thing for what, 200 years? 3? yeah, i'm not holding my breath that we got that part 100% right.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6130 on: May 18, 2017, 01:58:11 pm »

And even if it is correct, immortality is the ability to live forever assuming the external doesn't intervene. For instance, you can be effectively immortal in that your lifespan is endless, but jumping off a cliff will still kill you. Being around when the universe implodes would do so as well.
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« Reply #6131 on: May 18, 2017, 11:17:43 pm »

Oh, hold on. You believed in a mixture of Christianity and reincarnation, right?
I don't think I identify as "Christian" anymore. It's pretty much solely a basis in reincarnation, now. I believe that there's a god (or multiple gods, whatever. Wouldn't make a difference to me.) but I don't really think that they're quite as... dynamic? as most religions believe.

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Personally I prefer the notion of unlimited afterlife. At least with that you're assured of still being yourself.
I personally would not want to be immortal. I mean yeah, you lose all your worldly connection to everything, but it's not possible to truly experience everything if you never release the preconceptions you develop throughout your life. A clean slate is needed at some points.

...That said, if you want to become immortal, have at it.
I'll look forward to meeting you again in my next incarnation. :D
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6132 on: May 18, 2017, 11:31:56 pm »

but what if your next incarnation is me
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6133 on: May 18, 2017, 11:46:02 pm »

but what if your next incarnation is me
Then I guess I'd....


...I'd have no choice but to...


Fuck, I dunno. I never thought about reincarnating as pre-existing people.

Hold on while I make a new religion.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6134 on: May 19, 2017, 04:08:00 am »

If it has cool looking robes, I'll join.
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