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I am religious and believe in free will
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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 670267 times)

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1635 on: April 07, 2015, 07:49:33 am »

How would arks mate though?
The wizard did it. Honestly, makes as much sense as anything else in the Bible. And given it fixes the problem with a good dose of divine providence, it sounds like the sort of explanation a Christian might make.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1636 on: April 07, 2015, 07:51:02 am »

I'm flattered.

Plant reproduction makes more sense, though. If there's a castle of some kind, it just flowers and fruits.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1637 on: April 07, 2015, 08:01:34 am »

Again, when your explanation is "God did it" you can have Noah cutting off an arm and God growing an Ark out if it. Given God likes those who sacrifice the most of their livelihood, it makes sense.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1638 on: April 07, 2015, 08:13:47 am »

Isn't "Ark" just a huge chest?
For all I know the ark is just a big chest(By my notion of a cubit [basically your forearm + hand length] the ark was around 22 m by 130 m, and around 13 meters high) so it really fits a lot of stuff there, but I'm not too sure about all the species...
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1639 on: April 07, 2015, 08:24:51 am »

Not that ark. The other ark. The floaty one.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1640 on: April 07, 2015, 08:49:26 am »

By the specs, he's got the right ark. It's not a chest, though.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1641 on: April 07, 2015, 08:52:19 am »

Not that ark. The other ark. The floaty one.
Yes, that ark. The floaty one.
Why do everyone think the ark is something other than, you know, an ark?
The thing Noah did for certain wasn't a boat.
Sorry if it's just my bad english, but isn't "Ark" a box? like a chest? A boxy-chesty thingy?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1642 on: April 07, 2015, 08:55:17 am »

Fundamentally a boat really is just an open-top box. It's got some specializations to make it better at what it needs to do, but you stick a wooden box in the water and, assuming it doesn't leak, it'll serve as a very rudimentary boat.

Also, "ark" is only really used in relation to the two instances in the bible. The Ark of the Covenant, and Noah. So it's a bit hard to do the whole "what does it usually mean?" there.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1643 on: April 07, 2015, 09:19:19 am »

Yeah, when chest was mentioned I thought it was talking about the covenant one, which is generally described more or less as a chest, as opposed to the noah one which is, well. Generally considered a boat. Was way too soon after waking up to consider actually checking to see if the specs matched.

I guess if you were going full ham the noah box-ark could be a gigantic sperm bank type thing. Frozen fertilized eggs or somethin'. That'd fit things better, perhaps, size wise. And if it was run off biodiesel type stuff, it would even allow for the all-vegetarian thing -- technically they would be sustained by plant matter :V

More likely it was silly people describing what they considered a big boat while not actually having any idea about how to build a boat nor the extent of existent species. 22x130x13 would be the equivalent of holding your hands really wide and going, "Thiiiiis big!" Like with fish.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1644 on: April 07, 2015, 09:27:42 am »

Well, it probably didn't had anything resembling a modern boat... 22x130x13 isn't all that big, since we have ships bigger than that.
I think Noah did put all the species there since:
*Vermin do not occupy space.
*Creatures can be stacked infinitely as long as only one of them be standing at a given tile.
*As for keeping everyone feed, he probably knew how to do quantum stockpiles(The cheaty bastard).

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1645 on: April 07, 2015, 11:24:00 am »

Sorry if it's just my bad english, but isn't "Ark" a box? like a chest? A boxy-chesty thingy?
Originally that's what the term meant, yeah, but do to the prevalence of the story of Noah's Ark it has also come to mean any sort of thing that can draw parallels to Noah's Ark, be that by being a boat or by having life saving properties in the face of an apocalypse.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1646 on: April 07, 2015, 12:09:34 pm »

... Ehhhhhhh... God's pretty evil, mate. Biblically and via creation. Worlds kind of shitty and in lots of evil ways. Disease (and the really horrid ones, like worms in your veins and eyeballs, or your muscles and skin literally turning to bone, trapping you in a cage of your own tissues), natural disasters, 99.99999999% of the universe being inhospitable to life as we know it (human life especially), the favoritism of a tiny tribe in a backwater region that's only redeeming resource wouldn't be relevant for thousands of years (and even then, Israel doesn't have much oil if any :P

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1647 on: April 07, 2015, 12:26:05 pm »

That form of the link is gummed up, probably due to mobile device.  Here you go: https://youtu.be/lEU-rkbodsc
I don't recall hearing this one before, thanks.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1648 on: April 07, 2015, 02:22:25 pm »

Isn't "Ark" just a huge chest?
For all I know the ark is just a big chest(By my notion of a cubit [basically your forearm + hand length] the ark was around 22 m by 130 m, and around 13 meters high) so it really fits a lot of stuff there, but I'm not too sure about all the species...
Those are the dimensions. I can tell you that the ark is probably boat shaped and not a chest. Those measurements are how long it is at the longest point.
If I say an airplane is 120x90x20 feet, that doesn't mean it's a flying box.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1649 on: April 07, 2015, 02:26:48 pm »

Yea, Believers (IMO) seem to ignore a lot of things their god supposedly made, just so they can continue to say "omg look at that cute kitty god made awee so cuuuuute"
Not even an exagerration. A post saying nearly that exact same thing was put on my facebook.
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