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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
- 71 (27.7%)
I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 114 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (23.8%)

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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 685738 times)

TD1

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1560 on: April 05, 2015, 04:09:41 pm »

Why is there an end times? God wanted us do we could amuse him, or something. Why throw his tous out of the pram (figuatively speaking)?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1561 on: April 05, 2015, 04:31:21 pm »

The second coming is described as involving many choruses of angels and stars falling from the sky, earthquakes, everyone metaphorically crapping themselves in terror. And so on. It should be pretty noticeable.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1562 on: April 05, 2015, 04:40:53 pm »

... wouldn't a firebombing campaign have looked a lot like that, to the original writers?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1563 on: April 05, 2015, 04:46:28 pm »

Probably. Although trumpets and harps aren't exactly easy to play when you're getting firebombed.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1564 on: April 05, 2015, 04:50:38 pm »

The whine of rockets could count as heavebly sound.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1565 on: April 05, 2015, 05:07:38 pm »

Why is there an end times? God wanted us do we could amuse him, or something. Why throw his tous out of the pram (figuatively speaking)?
I have not seen anywhere in the bible God mentions creating us to amuse him. Could you find that for me?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1566 on: April 05, 2015, 05:35:08 pm »

Oh yeah, Happy Zombie Jesus Day!

To the religious folks around here: How was your Easter Mass? And what Easter Hymns do you like?

I'm very fond of Großer Gott, Wir Loben Dich (Great God, We Praise You). It's practically the anthem of the region my family comes from. My mom told me a story about it while we had our mock-Easter Bonfire (a tradition in that region, though sadly not here):
There's a lot of peat bogs in that area. One day, a somewhat demented family member (a grandma, I think) of a farmer in that village (a neighbor of my mom's cousin, I think) went out to pick blueberries there. Needless to say, she got lost, which is a pretty big deal in a fucking bog. So they called together the men of the village, who went out to search her - and luckily she was found. Of course, the men should have a reward: They got Freibier for the rest of the evening. But before they started, that farmer made a little speech: That he wanted to thank them, and that they all should thank God. So they all sung that song I mentioned, because everyone knew it by heart (and it really is a good song for that occasion). They sung three verses, and they sung loudly. And apparently a tourist walked by and was very confused to hear a bunch of men in the village pub enthusiastically singing a church hymn...
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1567 on: April 05, 2015, 05:52:57 pm »

Why is there an end times? God wanted us do we could amuse him, or something. Why throw his tous out of the pram (figuatively speaking)?
I have not seen anywhere in the bible God mentions creating us to amuse him. Could you find that for me?
It's probably not in the bible, but as we know, the ancient Greeks believed that their gods loved screwing people over just for the lulz. It makes a whole lot of sense, you know – the problem of evil was not an issue in those happy days.

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That's a nice hymn. Here's a link. I haven't listened to the St Matthew Passion this Easter... should probably do it tomorrow. 
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1568 on: April 05, 2015, 05:59:22 pm »

Yeah, Saint Matthew Passion is pretty darn cool.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1569 on: April 05, 2015, 06:46:57 pm »

Why is there an end times? God wanted us do we could amuse him, or something. Why throw his tous out of the pram (figuatively speaking)?
I have not seen anywhere in the bible God mentions creating us to amuse him. Could you find that for me?
No. I only have a cadet issued bible, and my phone atm. No doubt later I could make a stab at finding something. Time will tell.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1570 on: April 05, 2015, 06:56:37 pm »

That's a nice hymn. Here's a link.
And now imagine it sung like the finale of Beethoven's 9th :D
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« Reply #1571 on: April 05, 2015, 07:14:19 pm »

Oh yeah, Happy Zombie Jesus Day!

To the religious folks around here: How was your Easter Mass? And what Easter Hymns do you like?

I am a protestant, so our Easter celebration is a little bit... different. We sang Forever, Risen, Alive among others. During the songs, there was party confetti, balloons, and other party items. It was an incredibly fun service.
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« Reply #1572 on: April 05, 2015, 07:17:01 pm »

I guess I'll never understand why someone would want their church's hymns to sound like mediocre dance music...
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« Reply #1573 on: April 05, 2015, 07:19:08 pm »

I guess I'll never understand why someone would want their church's hymns to sound like mediocre dance music...
People were dancing, and jumping, and singing. We were having a party!! (JESUS IS ALIVE!!!!!!)
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1574 on: April 05, 2015, 07:22:18 pm »

I didn't actually go to my church's Easter service. Although I can say with absolute certainty it would have had more in common with Helgo's than that.
Songs, sure. But 18th-century hymns, not dancing and confetti.
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