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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
- 71 (27.7%)
I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 114 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (23.8%)

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1155 on: March 08, 2015, 01:56:48 am »

Nothingness

Though it is hypothetically possible that the people of the very distant future will discover how to defy entropy, read the entire history of the universe off the fabric of spacetime, and bring us all back to life.

But probably nothing.
This right here. It's why I'm almost certainly signing up to be cryogenically frozen after I die, since it improves the chance I might be able to "wake up" again someday. When this is all that there is, it makes trying to squeeze the maximum amount of time out of it more important. :P
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1156 on: March 08, 2015, 01:59:14 am »

It is not inconceivable that in the fullness of eternity the universe might run through all possible permutations and return again to whwre we are now.

Also, if the many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics is correct than from your own personal perspective you may well asymptotically approach death without actually reaching it.

Even of neither of these things though, it helps to consider the universe as a static four-dimensional object. Ypu're not gone when you're dead any more than Florida os gone when you're in California; a different location does not imply nonexistence.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1157 on: March 08, 2015, 02:01:32 am »

Nothingness

Though it is hypothetically possible that the people of the very distant future will discover how to defy entropy, read the entire history of the universe off the fabric of spacetime, and bring us all back to life.

But probably nothing.
This right here. It's why I'm almost certainly signing up to be cryogenically frozen after I die, since it improves the chance I might be able to "wake up" again someday. When this is all that there is, it makes trying to squeeze the maximum amount of time out of it more important. :P

Cryogenic freezing has too many what-ifs. A better solution woild be to have your head plasrinated so that your connectome can be mapped and uploaded to to a computer.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1158 on: March 08, 2015, 02:04:36 am »

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1159 on: March 08, 2015, 02:09:05 am »

Given that the continuity of your consciousness is interrupted often enough anyway, what's the difference?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1160 on: March 08, 2015, 02:09:33 am »

I like that idea of the Egg story. Every human being who has ever lived is the same entity, and the universe is just an egg for another god.

But I actually think we're just really funky machines and that we have as much of an afterlife as a computer does when you smash it and erase the data.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1161 on: March 08, 2015, 02:20:30 am »

Technically, your'e comment did get in - it;s just smack in the middle.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1162 on: March 08, 2015, 02:20:37 am »

Given that the continuity of your consciousness is interrupted often enough anyway, what's the difference?
Last I checked, your brain isn't literally destroyed every time you go to sleep. :P
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1163 on: March 08, 2015, 02:31:36 am »

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1164 on: March 08, 2015, 02:54:03 am »

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1165 on: March 08, 2015, 03:04:21 am »

I don't fond it too depressing, but it was pretty philosophical to say the least. No new ideas, but it was interesting to see them combined that way.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1166 on: March 08, 2015, 03:11:32 am »

That's not depressing! I found it uplifting! How do you get depressing!?

Also: That comic is like, A gigantic gold mine. Seriously, read the whole thing. It's fascinating. There's even one that's super applicable to our discussion on free will earlier: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/70. I still want to argue with it, of course: While I believe in choices, I don't believe we have any choice, in our choices. This mostly only matters when it comes to issues of credit and blame, of course, but whatevs.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1167 on: March 08, 2015, 03:27:30 am »

I don't really like the idea of oblivion and repeatedly dying.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1168 on: March 08, 2015, 03:34:10 am »

But you get to exist in the first place! I think it rather outweighs the negatives.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1169 on: March 08, 2015, 03:35:58 am »

Nothing wrong with the concept of oblivion. It's probably less interesting, but fairly liberating to think that everything fades to nothing after you die.
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