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I am religious and believe in free will

71 (27.7%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

114 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

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Total Members Voted: 251

[Arx]

Yup. Also, God is said to 'breathe life' into ha'adam, but that's an imperfect translation: the Hebrew for 'breath' and 'spirit' is the same, so God put a spirit into ha'adam.

I don't agree exactly with UXLZ, but I believe something similar.

[That Wolf]

Seperating themselves from the animals.
UXLZ that was beautifully written.
Im going to go away and contemplate what was said here today and hopefully I can make more sense.
Love That Wolf that killed your legendary adventurer.

[UXLZ]

Worth noting is that I'm not actually Christian or even ascribe to these beliefs. It was just an extremely interesting way I discovered of interpreting the Bible and its ilk.

I mean it kinda fits with the Holy Spirit but there are a few bits in the bible specifically speaking about god and his interactions (see Job? IIRC) which mean he's not mans conciliate as but his own entity

That's if you interpret the bible as an entirely literal documentation of events exactly as how they occurred, though.

Can someone quote me the line where God destroys Gomorrah?

[Baffler]

Worth noting is that I'm not actually Christian or even ascribe to these beliefs. It was just an extremely interesting way I discovered of interpreting the Bible and its ilk.

I mean it kinda fits with the Holy Spirit but there are a few bits in the bible specifically speaking about god and his interactions (see Job? IIRC) which mean he's not mans conciliate as but his own entity

That's if you interpret the bible as an entirely literal documentation of events exactly as how they occurred, though.

Can someone quote me the line where God destroys Gomorrah?

It is written:

And the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrha brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven. And he destroyed these cities, and all the country about, all the inhabitants of the cities, and all things that spring from the earth.

Sounds to me that that's as dead as dead can be.

[UXLZ]

And the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrha brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven. And he destroyed these cities, and all the country about, all the inhabitants of the cities, and all things that spring from the earth.

Right, so my interpretation of that with this theory would be this:

Their decadence destroyed them. Not in and of itself, but it caused their destruction.
Anyone here seen DBZ? Remember the original explanation for the destruction of Planet Vegeta, that its own good-hearted Guardian destroyed it due to the evil of its inhabitants?

Essentially, this: They were destroyed by the consciousness/humanity that 'God' represents/literally is. It may have been an army led by a kind-hearted leader who wished to see the cities purged. They may have been destroyed from within by some of their own inhabitants who despised them. There are quite a lot of possibilities, actually.

[Descan]

I say this because we look uniquely different from anything else on this planet because we look like god

Have you ever seen a shaved chimp? They look supremely human. Not entirely human, of course, but... especially the arms.

[Orange Wizard]

UXLZ: I must say your interpretation is very interesting. I'm not sure where to go with it, but it's certainly something worth considering.

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I say this because we look uniquely different from anything else on this planet because we look like god

Have you ever seen a shaved chimp? They look supremely human. Not entirely human, of course, but... especially the arms.

Google Image Search confirms this to be mostly false. Depends on how human is "supremely human".
I would have posted one here but I couldn't find one without a massive ballsack visible.

[Frumple]

It kinda' helps (?) that it's not terribly unlikely we killed off or interbred into extinction everything else that did look even more like us than chimps and whatnot. You're pretty likely to be unique if your ancestors murdered everything else that looked like you

[Orange Wizard]

Well, no-one's seen a Neanderthal for a while...

[Descan]

UXLZ: I must say your interpretation is very interesting. I'm not sure where to go with it, but it's certainly something worth considering.

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I say this because we look uniquely different from anything else on this planet because we look like god

Have you ever seen a shaved chimp? They look supremely human. Not entirely human, of course, but... especially the arms.

Google Image Search confirms this to be mostly false. Depends on how human is "supremely human".
I would have posted one here but I couldn't find one without a massive ballsack visible.

Human enough to say "Yeah, we're related."

Same way you are your cousin are similar looking, even if they don't have a beard or an orange, they might be a lemon or a lime instead.

And maybe they're a programmer instead of a wizard. Either way, they can do magic.

[Arx]

There's a sixteen gene difference between us and chimpanzees. We're pretty darn close.

[MonkeyHead]

There's a sixteen gene difference between us and chimpanzees. We're pretty darn close.

Another good way of looking at it is that we have 23 chromosomal pairs, and they have 24. 2 chimp chromosomes fused to make one human one. Fascinating reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2_%28human%29

[Arx]

In as many words, yes. Religion was useful when people couldn't explain strange phenomena in the world, when people were still afraid of thunder and had no explanation for pork and shellfish killing them, because they didn't know about foodborne illnesses. The problem is, though, if you continue to use a crutch after your legs are healthy, you never really learn to walk.

So am I inherently less curious, less intelligent, or less human because I believe there is a god (which happens to be God)?

Also while I'm here:

The issue I see with UXLZ's theory as they lay it out is that it implies God is within, whereas They (I'm just going to use the gender neutral here) are stated to be without in the Bible. That humanity is in the image of God by our mind I am in agreement with.

[Helgoland]

Indeed.

Should I make a Euphoria joke now, or would that be inappropriate?

[Arx]

Damn. Guess I'll stop all this 'questioning my beliefs' and 'science' and 'caring about understanding the universe' business, then. And I was so looking forward to a lot of it.