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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
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I am religious and do not believe in free will
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I am not religious and believe in free will
- 114 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 681199 times)

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2015, 09:36:19 pm »

I actually looked up some of the lyrics, and it's mostly either non-ISIS nasheed that are also enjoyed by jihadists, or nasheeds that pretty much say "ISIS is coming to protect to Ummah, we'll give our life for the Prophet, blahblahblah". Fairly tame stuff actually. But then, Nazi Germany's songs didn't have parts about gassing the Jews in them.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2015, 10:12:17 pm »

Previous thread has been locked, it's all yours Orange Wizard.

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2015, 11:11:21 pm »

PTW.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2015, 11:13:08 pm »

Also, Wiccan got the second best religious music after the Islamic nasheeds.

I rather like some of the Catholic hymns...

Although that's mainly because I can sing "In the Moun-tains of Mad-ness~!" to the tune of them perfectly, which is a great quality in almost any song.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2015, 11:18:29 pm »

The common use of certain metres is amazing. For instance, many Methodist hymns are in iambic pentameter, so one can sing quite a few things to them. Hamlet's soliloquy, for one.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2015, 11:26:03 pm »

Former Christian, technically still an ordained priest of the Latter Day Saints.
Currently resides somewhere closer to Buddhist beliefs, and is a firm believer in reincarnation.
Reporting, as much as that matters.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2015, 01:23:42 am »

As before, Humanist/Atheist. If you want to, you can label me "Angry Atheist" or "New Atheist" or "Dawkins Atheist" or whatever. I have no use for the supernatural whatsoever.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2015, 03:16:38 am »

As before, former Sunni Muslim willing to answer questions about Islam in general, until more or less another takes my place.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2015, 03:54:11 am »

Put me down as an Agnostic Nihilist, please.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2015, 04:10:08 am »

Former Christian, technically still an ordained priest of the Latter Day Saints.
Currently resides somewhere closer to Buddhist beliefs, and is a firm believer in reincarnation.
Reporting, as much as that matters.

As a believer in reincarnation, what is it you believe reincarnate? our soul, meaning a distinct entity that gets reborn into another human being? what gets carried on through this distinct entity (or in other words, what are the qualities and characteristics of this entity)?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2015, 04:14:17 am »

Put me down as an Agnostic Nihilist, please.
I'm not putting anyone down as anything. This isn't a structured question-answer thread, you're free to chat about whatever you wish (mostly).

In any case, I am also interested in hearing more about mastah's reincarnation beliefs.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2015, 04:21:22 am »

It was basically just a PTW.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2015, 04:23:24 am »

Oh. Never mind, then.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2015, 09:56:40 am »

Former Christian, technically still an ordained priest of the Latter Day Saints.
Currently resides somewhere closer to Buddhist beliefs, and is a firm believer in reincarnation.
Reporting, as much as that matters.

As a believer in reincarnation, what is it you believe reincarnate? our soul, meaning a distinct entity that gets reborn into another human being? what gets carried on through this distinct entity (or in other words, what are the qualities and characteristics of this entity)?
Yes, I believe that there is some form of "soul" that persists between incarnations.
To better explain it: I believe that the "purpose" of life is simply to learn. There are many religions that believe this. In any case, it's not possible, in any sense, to learn all there is to know, or even all that you want to know, within a single lifetime.
So I do believe that there is some form of knowledge or information that resides within the soul, that could possibly be transfered to the present physical body. (Whether you'd realize it happening or not wouldn't really matter)
Obviously, though, you wouldn't remember them, because your ability to learn is skewed when you have prior experience, because you already think you understand how it works, and aren't as open to new ideas, as if you had a blank slate for your memory.

As I imagine it will inevitably be asked where souls come from, the Bhagavad-Gita (One of the many book of Hindu scripture, but it shares a lot of beliefs with Budhisim) does a better job of explaining than I could do, in that it explain that just as God is immortal, and has always existed, with no beginning, so too has every person's soul, always having been.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2015, 02:50:36 pm »

As before, Humanist/Atheist. If you want to, you can label me "Angry Atheist" or "New Atheist" or "Dawkins Atheist" or whatever. I have no use for the supernatural whatsoever.
As a Christian (Presbyterian) what books and other media do you recommend to learn more about atheist beliefs, and to learn where an Atheist worldview is based off of?
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