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I am religious and believe in free will

71 (27.7%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

114 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

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Total Members Voted: 251

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I'm pretty sure that part of the bible was written by people who has been hearing the story from generations of passing it down the line.
Adam and Eve probably didn't write the book of the bible so it was definitlycpassed down quite a ways

[origamiscienceguy]

God created Adam and Eve with the ability to speak and hear. Humans have always been able to talk and listen. If you want to look at the original Hebrew text, the word "pə-rū" is a word explicitly used to mean "to bear many offspring" so it is impossible to interpret that any other way.

[origamiscienceguy]

Moses must have had really good sources when he wrote/put together Genesis. Eithe he recieved it directly from God, or he used books passed down from ancestors abram->issac->jacob->Joseph->moses

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Probably a mix of both if I had to guess.

[origamiscienceguy]

Jesus quoted and used those books so it must have been pretty darn accurate.

[That Wolf]

I'm pretty sure that part of the bible was written by people who has been hearing the story from generations of passing it down the line.
Adam and Eve probably didn't write the book of the bible so it was definitlycpassed down quite a ways

Basicly what im saying. Its chinese wispers

So back to what I was clearly saying.
The fruit of knowledge. not specific knowledge. Perhaps creations knowledge was in it among sentience and lucifer wanted humans to become more.
So eating it alowed child birth among the many other symptoms like realisation of their nakedness.
So when god says be fruitfull and multiply, what if it is a literal statement, also a warning.
Because if they where all born with language and passed it down why would "be fruitful" not be literal.
If you are born with language you have no need to dance around with words and you would say give birth.
Was that enough of an explanation for the closeminded?

If not say so and Il write it up again.


Edit:
The sumarian texts say god and lucifer are on equal terms and have different goals, both of the same race and power (both weak)

[Orange Wizard]

"The tree of knowledge of good and evil". Why do people always miss off that last bit?

[origamiscienceguy]

What are you asking? Are you questioning the validity of what the Bible?

[That Wolf]

"The tree of knowledge of good and evil". Why do people always miss off that last bit?

Because good and bad dont exist and are included in the title of fruit of knowledge.
Knowledge is word enough to encompass it all.
Why correct something so trivial?

Yeah and I always question the validity of everything. Especialy fairy tales written by dehydrated sunstroked desert peoples.

[Orange Wizard]

Because good and bad dont exist and are included in the title of fruit of knowledge.
Knowledge is word enough to encompass it all.
Why correct something so trivial?

Good and evil exist in the context of the Bible, which is, oddly enough, what you're discussing. It impacts the scope of the knowledge - this is knowledge about good and evil, not... particle physics, or whatever.

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Especialy fairy tales written by dehydrated sunstroked desert peoples.

Please be respectful of other people's beliefs, even if you think said belief is foolish or blatantly incorrect.
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making jokes about beliefs, etc. in a derogatory manner is forbidden.

[Angle]

_ptw

[That Wolf]

I never was disrespectful about anybodys religion at this time.
Unless you do believe in fairy tales written by the dehydrated.
If so I am sorry.
I dont mean to offend. Just what I say can be strewn as such material.

[Descan]

I though bear fruit was like aligator pears?

The bible has been around for a few translations, also nobody except adam and eve heard what god said
Wording terms like 'fruitful' didnt exsist at the time, but where developed by many people.
Why would god and the first two humans need special wording about birthing?

The bible is open to interpretation.
Dont get caught up in wording invented by society.

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im confident in that comment

... Remember what I said about not trolling? :/

In case you aren't just being a lackwit ass, you REALIZE that that phrase is just flowery bullshit to make the bible sound all divine and crap when it was translated, right? The original language didn't necessarily need to be something akin to "fruitful."

[That Wolf]

Bro trolling is attempting to illicit a response through obviously flaming and offensive means, Im not trolling.
Or maybe my level of being offended is higher than yours. I dont get offended easily
Yeah ofcourse its bs written to be poetic. but it is confusing for many and how can that help?

Allright Il leave it be if im offending

Thanks for the warning Descan

[Orange Wizard]

I never was disrespectful about anybodys religion at this time.
Unless you do believe in fairy tales written by the dehydrated.

You must have a different definition of "respectful" to me, then, because you're making jokes that are explicitly derogatory (and maybe even a little racist).
And you keep doing it literally the sentence after you insist that you're not doing it.

Please get your act together.