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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
- 71 (27.7%)
I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 114 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (23.8%)

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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 686746 times)

Urist McScoopbeard

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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6315 on: January 28, 2018, 04:19:00 pm »

I really fucking hope we don't see another great awakening. Count me out of the US if that happens.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6316 on: January 28, 2018, 04:35:12 pm »

That's the thing that would make you leave?
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6317 on: January 28, 2018, 05:22:06 pm »

That's the thing that would make you leave?

Ya. Fucked up shit may happen in the US of A, but nothing so ideologically clashes with my personality than modern organized religion, and seeing a resurgence in that would probably destroy what little faith I have left in humanity.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6318 on: January 28, 2018, 11:42:24 pm »

Gen Z? Is that like post millenials or which group is that?

As for the 'religion bubble', did it already pop for Europe or something?
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6319 on: January 29, 2018, 08:17:20 am »

Gen Z? Is that like post millenials or which group is that?

As for the 'religion bubble', did it already pop for Europe or something?
Yeah, it's post-millenials. Seems to be 90s+. Which I thought was actual millenials, but what do I know.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6320 on: January 29, 2018, 07:44:47 pm »

I always figure "Millennial" is anybody born at or before the turn of the Millennium, and Gen Z is anyone born after that point. So Millennial are people age 20 to 40, and Gen Z is younger than that.

But generations aren't real; they're lumps of people defined by birth period when births are a continual process that are unable to be seperated into distinct periods; there's no reason to separate people born 1 year apart into different "generations" and yet people act as if everyone born in 1 twenty-year period are all THIS way, and people born in a different twenty year period are entirely some OTHER personality.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6321 on: January 29, 2018, 07:58:51 pm »

Not really? The idea is that different youth hoods define them generally, but not in an absolute sense.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6322 on: January 29, 2018, 08:07:19 pm »

I really fucking hope we don't see another great awakening. Count me out of the US if that happens.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6323 on: January 29, 2018, 11:27:26 pm »

Not really? The idea is that different youth hoods define them generally, but not in an absolute sense.
That's certainly not how (non-academic) people use them :V
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6324 on: January 30, 2018, 04:08:02 am »

Perhaps this is simply a difference in our respective locations, but really, it's sorta like star signs only more concrete.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6325 on: January 30, 2018, 04:14:52 am »

The original definition of "Millennial" was co-extensive with "Generation Y"; people who would be reaching young-adulthood at the turn of the millennium, specifically. So, '80s babies.
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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6328 on: February 05, 2018, 09:37:22 am »

Religious adherence tends to progress in cycles, typically taking around 40-50 years to come full circle (about 2 generations).  If my estimate is correct, we are currently nearing the end of a secular wave and have begun to show the telltale signs of moving back.  (Compare culture today with the 20s and the 70s.)

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Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« Reply #6329 on: February 05, 2018, 11:23:00 pm »

I was going to write a post on how religion is morally helpful in some cases, but then it struck me that Sanderson's Stormlight Archive has taught me more of morality than the Bible. Which isn't hard, 'cause I deliberately eschewed the Bible as a matter of pride (a deadly sin for which my soul will be in eternal torment, I know). Then I considered what would happen if an entire nation were actively encouraged to read that book and see truth in it? Regularly to dwell, or at least told to, on certain passages? Surely that would have the same moralistic impact, without mysticism? The creed which starts with the words in my sig appeals as much as any religious mantra.
More, even, because the Bible encourages selfish morality. "To achieve the kingdom of heaven you must..." "Give us this day our daily bread". It is a system whereby morality is offered as a service and salvation as payment. Meanwhile, Stormlight teaches honour for the sake of others. Goodness despite internal conflict. A selfless morality.

I wonder what would happen in a society encouraged to dwell on that with full dedication? Not that particular book, necessarily, but one with the same theme. Would it make a better nation than Christianity doctors?
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