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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
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I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 114 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (23.8%)

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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 685803 times)

Bohandas

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #525 on: February 05, 2015, 04:40:38 pm »

I gotta call bullshit on what you said about DMT. The stuff doesn't work that way.

No, I've heard that too, that small amounts are produced in the pineal gland..
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #526 on: February 05, 2015, 04:45:45 pm »

I gotta call bullshit on what you said about DMT. The stuff doesn't work that way.

No, I've heard that too, that small amounts are produced in the pineal gland..

Not proved in humans, DEFINITELY not proved to be released upon death.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #527 on: February 05, 2015, 04:46:34 pm »

I gotta call bullshit on what you said about DMT. The stuff doesn't work that way.

No, I've heard that too.

It's a reference to Strassman's studies and his speculation that the pineal gland synthesizes DMT as found in DMT: The Spirit Molecule. However, somehow Strassman's speculation has turned into a pop culture "fact" as a way to explain-away near death experiences or propose some kind of chemical afterlife with mental time dilation (yes, I have actually heard both of these).

There is no known mechanism in the pineal gland for synthesizing DMT, though it's certainly possible. However, until this is proven, the release-upon-death theory is an epistemological equivalent to the stoned ape theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #528 on: February 05, 2015, 04:50:12 pm »

dmt?

And I may have heard of Samhadi before, DnD? I dunno.
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I gotta call bullshit on what you said about DMT. The stuff doesn't work that way.
What part was bullshit?

Aha!  So you really are trolling.

Now stop will you :P
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #529 on: February 05, 2015, 04:58:56 pm »

Haha I dont see it as trolling. Im glad that I got told off though. I read the link and the experiences people had didnt sound fun.
But still no proof that It isnt in the pineal gland.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #530 on: February 05, 2015, 05:01:03 pm »

But still no proof that It isnt in the pineal gland.

There is also no proof I am not secretly a reptilian who just so happens to look and behave exactly like a human. You don't prove that something ISN'T. You can just disprove something IS.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #531 on: February 05, 2015, 05:01:51 pm »

But still no proof that It isnt in the pineal gland.

That isn't how the burden of proof works.

There is no proof that I do not have an invisible pink unicorn in my garage who will summon rain and fire upon the world unless all men everywhere walk around with fake unicorn horns on the third Saturday of November every year.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #532 on: February 05, 2015, 05:03:51 pm »

A bit of a change of topic, how many other people on this forum follow something non-christian and non-atheistic? What do you follow? These threads always turn in to christian/atheism topics, and I'm curious what other beliefs populate these forums.
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Wrote some stuff earlier on in the topic on my beliefs being closer to Buddhism.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #533 on: February 05, 2015, 05:04:16 pm »

You also have to add in 'intangible', 'incomprehensible', and 'Perfect' to that FFS, or it doesn't properly work. If the Unicorn is merely invisible then it can be disproved simply by filling the garage with cement and then checking for unicorn-shaped air pockets.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #534 on: February 05, 2015, 05:05:14 pm »

I'm just confused about how a unicorn can be both invisible and pink at the same time.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #535 on: February 05, 2015, 05:06:28 pm »

You also have to add in 'intangible', 'incomprehensible', and 'Perfect' to that FFS, or it doesn't properly work. If the Unicorn is merely invisible then it can be disproved simply by filling the garage with cement and then checking for unicorn-shaped air pockets.

Actually that's a pretty good point.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #536 on: February 05, 2015, 05:08:08 pm »

I'm just confused about how a unicorn can be both invisible and pink at the same time.

Because it just can.

Hmm... Now where have we heard this awfully compelling argument before?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #537 on: February 05, 2015, 05:09:12 pm »

I'm just confused about how a unicorn can be both invisible and pink at the same time.

Better point.
Anyway just wear the horn it will please the powerful unicorn
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #538 on: February 05, 2015, 05:11:21 pm »

I'm just confused about how a unicorn can be both invisible and pink at the same time.
Presumably the same way humans will eventually be able to be invisible and skin-colored whenever we get around to polishing off optical camo. You can hold the state of "light passes through" and "if light hit, it would reflect pink" at the same time. It's just the latter would functionally never happen. The underlying structure would still be such that it would be pink were the appropriate conditions met.

E: Or, to give a different example, a pink unicorn is still a pink unicorn in the dark. Same concept. Visibility is a different metric than color.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #539 on: February 05, 2015, 05:11:58 pm »

You also have to add in 'intangible', 'incomprehensible', and 'Perfect' to that FFS, or it doesn't properly work. If the Unicorn is merely invisible then it can be disproved simply by filling the garage with cement and then checking for unicorn-shaped air pockets.
Maybe it leaves the garage to test your faith :P
But actually, I always assumed the IPU was designed to be inconsistent (and thus parody the inconsistencies found in major religious doctrines).  That if something is always invisible, it by definition cannot be pink.  Much as God cannot be love and also the creator of evil and eternal torment.  (Not to mention 3 entities and 1 at the same time.  What's so wrong about polytheism...)

Whereas the flying spaghetti monster and the space teacup are consistent, if absurd, articles of faith.
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