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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
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I am religious and do not believe in free will
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I am not religious and believe in free will
- 114 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 686308 times)

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1335 on: March 22, 2015, 01:55:01 pm »

I think in Christianity/Judaism there is a certain amount of "physical resurrection" stuff that makes some people nervous of cremation.

Personally, if God's bringing my dead body back to life I'm sure He can do it from ash and teeth as well as bones.
You get a new body, so your old body doesn't matter. (read 2 Corinthians 5)
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1336 on: March 22, 2015, 02:24:44 pm »

Yeah, there are differing interpretations. Some churches believe that your body is physically stitched back together, some believe you plop into an entirely new body (see above), and I think a few believe only your spirit is preserved because they also believe Heaven/Hell are spiritual places rather than physical.
I don't actually know what the official Reformed doctrine on it is. I might remember to ask my minister at some point.
Personally, I don't really know what will happen. Should be interesting to find out, though.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1337 on: March 22, 2015, 02:52:14 pm »

Or to not find out. Nonexistence holds few revelations  :P
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« Reply #1338 on: March 22, 2015, 05:18:37 pm »

I wouldn't stake my life on it.
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« Reply #1339 on: March 22, 2015, 05:22:01 pm »

I'd stake my death on it.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1340 on: March 22, 2015, 07:35:24 pm »

I think in Christianity/Judaism there is a certain amount of "physical resurrection" stuff that makes some people nervous of cremation.

Personally, if God's bringing my dead body back to life I'm sure He can do it from ash and teeth as well as bones.

And doing it from bones is definitely in the bible, and it's definitely clear that they can even have fallen apart and been scattered:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+37%3A1%2D14&version=NIV
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=pYb8Wm6-QfA

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1341 on: March 22, 2015, 07:39:09 pm »

I think in Christianity/Judaism there is a certain amount of "physical resurrection" stuff that makes some people nervous of cremation.

Personally, if God's bringing my dead body back to life I'm sure He can do it from ash and teeth as well as bones.

And doing it from bones is definitely in the bible, and it's definitely clear that they can even have fallen apart and been scattered:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+37%3A1%2D14&version=NIV
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=pYb8Wm6-QfA
Yes, If God decides to raise you to life in this world, then he can do it. But in heaven, we get a new body.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1342 on: March 24, 2015, 03:06:07 pm »

To ask the classic question of Vardy: Do you have to queue to see Jesus, given it's all physical?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1343 on: March 24, 2015, 03:54:41 pm »

To ask the classic question of Vardy: Do you have to queue to see Jesus, given it's all physical?
Can you please elaborate? I don't know what you're asking.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1344 on: March 24, 2015, 04:01:15 pm »

It's a question meant to bring the reality of the situation to you.

You've got your flashy new body from God. Jesus is there... if everyone wants to see him, do they have to queue?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1345 on: March 24, 2015, 04:18:00 pm »

Probably, I guess? I mean, by that stage we've got eternity, so I don't think it really matters.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1346 on: March 24, 2015, 04:22:07 pm »

Funny. Nothing seems to matter when you have an eternity. How...glum.

Anyway.

Yes, you could queue for years, but I'd hardly call that a happy heaven. Imagine the queues around famous people. Family members from generations ago. Heaven would be one great heaving queue with billions of different destinations.
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« Reply #1347 on: March 24, 2015, 04:25:40 pm »

You could probably use some sort of a paging system. That would mean that there's no waiting in line, you can happily go and do whatever you want while you wait for your queue to go through. (After all, how many things do you do today that involve famous people personally? I'm guessing not many).
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #1348 on: March 24, 2015, 05:00:54 pm »

Oh. Also, interesting question.

Who thinks animals go to heaven?

If not, why not?
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« Reply #1349 on: March 24, 2015, 05:26:19 pm »

Who thinks animals go to heaven?

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