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[Deus Asmoth]

I'm fine with it, though if Persus isn't I'll likely choose someone else to guard.

[Scripten]

I certainly can't complain. My guard stays up, right?

[Deus Asmoth]

Well, he'll stay upright unless the scum kill him.

[Cheeetar]

Is Jim okay with his own plan?

Yes.

You might've changed your mind

[zombie urist]

I don't like the plan. NQT already said Jim was "find" so there's no need for Tiruin to do so again. Also if Jim claimed Reporter before NQT claimed Jim was find then Jim probably is reporter, but of course this doesn't mean he's town.

I'm doubtful of Scripten being a war vet, so I think Jim should follow him. Then Deus can protect Jim. Tiruin can telepath Persus to see if he's actually a doctor. Persus can protect whomever.

I'm not sure if Shakerag can put a tracking device before getting blocked, but I think Shakerag should track Persus and I'll block Shakerag.

I kind of want to No Lynch today, but I'm not sure.

NQT's "active scum" theory is interesting because it would basically clear Toaster/Cheetar/UXLZ and maybe Scripten. But Jim did bring up an interesting fact that if Mastahcheese was protecting another dopp that did the kill, Mastahcheese would be killed. Jim claimed that he saw Mastahcheese go to Toonyman, but he also forgot his claim which is highly suspicious. So if Jim is town, then it looks like the scumteam would be Tiruin, Shakerag, Persus? NQT said its unlikely Persus and Tiruin are on the same team and I'm doubtful of Scripten so the scumteam would probably be Tiruin,Shakerag,Scripten.

If Jim is scum, would he actually reveal that mastahcheese didn't actually do the kill? I don't think so. But I still think Jim is kinda scummy and his reasoning for following mastahcheese is weak. Jim could actually be a xenozoologist who tried to abduct mastahcheese N1 but couldn't b/c MC was killed and got blocked N2. This also explains why NQT saw that Jim's goal was find.

If Persus actually is heroic guard, why did he say his role was weak? I suppose heroic guard is 'weaker' than observant guard, so if Persus is scum, then why did mastahcheese perform the kill instead of Persus? I guess that means Persus is town?

I also think Deus is town because of protecting Pisskop and stuff. Also he is probably what he claims, a guardian.

If Persus is town, then there's no need for Tiruin to telepath him. So I guess then Tiruin should telepath Shakerag, though there's a good chance they're on the same team.

Of course the "active scum theory" would be broken if Jim was in fact third party and mastahcheese was protecting someone else who did the kill. Then Toaster and Cheetar could be scum and if that's the case then I think of the two its more likely to be Cheetar, but of course there's no guarantee that they both couldn't be scum. Actually if they were both scum the game would be over since they would have a total of 5 votes. So at least one of Cheetar/Toaster is town and I'm not too confident on either. So maybe we could lynch one tonight and then I can block the other if we lynch wrongly.

So if Jim is actually Xenozoologist, I'm not sure if he can still win since TDS was an alien and there might not be anymore aliens. I'm not sure if the xeno immediately loses if he can no longer win. Or maybe he's a mind-stealer type harvester. It sure would be nice of him to claim if he were an alien. 

Actually abduct does happen before kills so I guess unless Jim did nothing N1 he's not an alien.

Sorry if this is very ramble-y I'm just writing my thoughts out like a stream of consciousness.

[Cheeetar]

Jeeze. Jeeeeeeeze.

Telepath does not give alignment or role. It categorises the action the player performed that night, and only that night.

[zombie urist]

So? What's your point?

[Jim Groovester]

Sorry if this is very ramble-y I'm just writing my thoughts out like a stream of consciousness.

So if you could summarize what you want changed with my plan, what would it be?

So? What's your point?

If, say, Persus13 is scum and doing the nightkill and Tiruin telepaths him, he will show up as Kill instead of Protect like he should, so he's scum since that's not the expected result.

It's an additional measure to make sure people are honest.

[Scripten]

I'm doubtful of Scripten being a war vet, so I think Jim should follow him.

Can you explain how this is superior to the original plan?

NQT said its unlikely Persus and Tiruin are on the same team and I'm doubtful of Scripten so the scumteam would probably be Tiruin,Shakerag,Scripten.

Tiruin is allegedly on my team?

If Persus actually is heroic guard, why did he say his role was weak? I suppose heroic guard is 'weaker' than observant guard, so if Persus is scum, then why did mastahcheese perform the kill instead of Persus? I guess that means Persus is town?

This is a decent point.

[Tiruin]

Surprise to me that the last page is actually ~10 replies late -.-
Ugh my net, for a whole darn day. Post coming soon anyway.

Regarding the plan--I'm feeling a bit weary on how the process goes; Scripten can rather be the wild card and ZU/Jim/DA... can be moved to someone else, along with the associated teaming up in order to make the 'actions' work. As it is now, its pretty faulty considering ~1/3 of the players are scum, pertaining to deep coordination and/or dopp/human roles due to how...linear it seems. Will try to detail later on with post.

[Cheeetar]

So? What's your point?

NQT already said Jim was "find" so there's no need for Tiruin to do so again.

[Tiruin]

So? What's your point?

NQT already said Jim was "find" so there's no need for Tiruin to do so again.

Err...? Was this for me? Because its not about that ._.

[Cheeetar]

No, sorry, it was directed at Zombie Urist.

[zombie urist]

Yeah but if Jim kills again there'll be evidence anyways. I don't really think Jim can be scum for so unvote for now.

I think there's a good chance that Cheeetar is fake-claiming enchanter, but I need to think about this.

[Cheeetar]

And what will this evidence be...?

ZU, you've mentioned before that you think I'm likely scum. Why do you believe I'm scum?

Also, unvote Jim Groovester. Didn't twig at all to my push, and it's going nowhere. Plus, I haven't seen his actions as scummy until today, and it's not a very strong feeling. I'm instead going to vote for Toaster- his enchanter claim came late considering how visible its effects are, I haven't seen him have a large impact on the game (not really lead any lynches/uncovered any scumminess by my eyes), and I really don't want a scum enchanter biting us in the ass Day 4 or 5.