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Author Topic: Paranormal 24 - Game over! Doppelganger Victory!  (Read 218626 times)

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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1245 on: February 12, 2015, 10:36:06 am »

Mephansteras: In this hypothetical scenario of an Alien killer with a Combat Camouflage tech--can the person change their 'masks' to different forms of flavor per kill, or is it a 'once set, this is what should be shown through the entirety of the game'?

It can be changed at will.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1246 on: February 12, 2015, 01:49:19 pm »

Sorry I think I need an extend I've been too busy to look over this game.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1247 on: February 12, 2015, 02:13:31 pm »

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Jim Groovester: Cheeetar, zombie urist
Tiruin: Deus Asmoth, Scripten, Toaster
Toaster: Jim Groovester
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Day ends ~4pm Pacific Today (about 5 hours). There are 2 votes to Extend the day to ~5pm Pacific Monday. Three votes needed to extend.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1248 on: February 12, 2015, 02:35:54 pm »

I'm going to vote to extend. The day is definitely still ripe for conversation, as there are still outstanding questions and such.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1249 on: February 12, 2015, 03:14:38 pm »

Extend PFP

Has your vote always been under the assumption of active lurking? It has been that way since this WHOLE GAME.

Pretty much, though it's grown stronger as you reply with more and more fluff and dodging. There's also the fact that your reads, on day 3, are but puffs of air. (That is, not very strong at all, despite being fairy wordy.) You're trying to wiggle out of a lynch, but you're not really scumhunting. The most solid contributions you've given have been setup spec, which is a common place for scum to hide and pretend to contribute from.

I keep getting this feeling that the votes from ZU and Toaster on me during D2 were supposed to be a threat for voting Tiruin. (Considering they both accused me of having weak/toothless votes/cases or exclusively targeting lurkers.) Then when D3 comes along, you vote me with all kinds of spectacle and hold onto this big post that you claim has all this analysis. When you finally post it, the brunt of it is that I'm targeting you for active lurking and that I find people who post but don't contribute actual content to be scummy.

Well, yeah. I do. Because active lurking and pretending to contribute while decidedly not doing so IS SCUMMY.
You could first do some analysis of yourself before you begin judging others--by far, your vote has no substance over me; the first time I've asked you that question was to gauge your degree of thought into the question, and by far I found that you had already judged me instead of treated me like how I first assumed your situation (ie that Philosophy I linked).

By far, your analysis has gone under continuous bias--evident by that 'assumption of deflection', when the connection between such people and me have not even been expounded further; as present, they are merely feelings given that despite your insistence on me, you haven't even delved into them as a comparison. All those accusations of active lurking and otherwise? Unproven.

Basically, its been nudging by intuition all game. You have no proof that I'm scum, yet are acting like I'm guilty and using that leverage to provide substance towards your vote. What proof do you have at all?
Nothing.
It all just feels like I'm doing all this, because you've chosen to assume instead of analyze. In the proceedings until now, those 'suspects' (which sounds more like you're treating them like a lighthearted accomplice rather than an actual read) haven't been put into focus by you, but rather your focus has been on me serves as your crux, and notably a facade of a case because that's all you can push--in regards to your vote, anyway, there's a notable lack of substance to it; you've been questioning my reads and that's good, as well as poking me towards how I see others, but that's described as passive analysis: the problem of me prior to now is that you've got nothing, so other than assume a stance otherwise open, you put the idea of lurking and active [whichever] in order to make some leverage there.

To make me speak?

The motive is questionable at least. The living notepad hovers over my shoulder here--I've made a replica of the lurkertracker on your posts to really check your consistency and so far it has been...continuous. But lacking towards others, if the same degree of judgement to me is sincere.

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If you're curious, this is the hypothetical situation I was musing over.
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So~
Results of musing? Because its a big blank (prior to Medium confirmation...)
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1250 on: February 12, 2015, 03:50:33 pm »

Yep, extenderino.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1251 on: February 12, 2015, 04:10:29 pm »

Day has been Extended to ~5pm Pacific Monday


As a reminder, I will be out of town through this weekend so you'll be on your own for vote counts until I get back on Monday.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1252 on: February 12, 2015, 04:16:59 pm »

PFP (I can use quotes like this, but lurkertracker doesn't seem to work. I can provide evidence for my claims in a few hours once I'm back home.)

You could first do some analysis of yourself before you begin judging others--by far, your vote has no substance over me.

You seem to be taking my case on you a little personally. My vote is perfectly substantial as evidence in a mafia game.

By far, your analysis has gone under continuous bias--evident by that 'assumption of deflection', when the connection between such people and me have not even been expounded further; as present, they are merely feelings given that despite your insistence on me, you haven't even delved into them as a comparison. All those accusations of active lurking and otherwise? Unproven.

Actually, you've created the proof yourself. Do you remember when I asked you to tell me what you have accomplished all game? Why do you think I would ask you a question like that?

Basically, its been nudging by intuition all game. You have no proof that I'm scum, yet are acting like I'm guilty and using that leverage to provide substance towards your vote. What proof do you have at all?
Nothing.

And what exactly do you expect me to bring forth as sufficient evidence? Do you only accept cop or equivalent guilties as evidence?

(I've cut a bunch of fluff from this post.)

Results of musing? Because its a big blank (prior to Medium confirmation...)

It was made from false premise, so I dropped it. Since NQT had seen Jim's goal as find, he could not have been the scum who killed MC.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1253 on: February 12, 2015, 04:22:06 pm »

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You seem to be taking my case on you a little personally. My vote is perfectly substantial as evidence in a mafia game.
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Because its assumed evidence. That's as substantial as many things in a mafia game.

Also lurkertracker doesn't work currently. I've tried. Hence why it took SO LONG.
Manual searches = x_x

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Actually, you've created the proof yourself. Do you remember when I asked you to tell me what you have accomplished all game? Why do you think I would ask you a question like that?
Did you remember when I said technical issues? Like, more than you ever asked me that question?
The question you have here is something that I have been carrying for DAYS instead of the minutes it took you to formulate it. Consider that, rather than keeping on labeling me as a lurker with negative associations.

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And what exactly do you expect me to bring forth as sufficient evidence? Do you only accept cop or equivalent guilties as evidence?
That's not that which bugs me.
What bugs me is your lack of branching out onto others. You noted that ZU/Toaster is a second best target for you.
You didn't go into depth or detail about them at all.

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It was made from false premise, so I dropped it. Since NQT had seen Jim's goal as find, he could not have been the scum who killed MC.
Dropped it because of what? UXLZ's Medium Intervention?
Sans that kind of evidence--what actually made you drop it? The latter sentence?
I mean, that as much was obvious when you did bring up the consideration.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1254 on: February 12, 2015, 04:27:45 pm »

I also confirmed it (as wrong)...

By the way, Tiri-chan, I don't think chainsaw defending is going to work very well. A counter attack is all good, but if you counter attack without actually addressing what the other person is saying to you doesn't reflect kindly.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1255 on: February 12, 2015, 04:28:48 pm »

NQT had actually confirmed his N1 investigation as having Jim be 'Find' a long time ago... Everyone just forgot it for some reason or other.
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« Reply #1256 on: February 12, 2015, 04:31:35 pm »

NQT had actually confirmed his N1 investigation as having Jim be 'Find' a long time ago... Everyone just forgot it for some reason or other.
Err...this is what my basis was.
It's shown in all read-recounts thus far.

I also confirmed it (as wrong)...

By the way, Tiri-chan, I don't think chainsaw defending is going to work very well. A counter attack is all good, but if you counter attack without actually addressing what the other person is saying to you doesn't reflect kindly.
Chainsawing whonow?
How am I defending anyone there? o_O I'm noting that Scripten has a lack of basis onto anyone else, and while his assumption is valid in a Mafia context (because of how it seems to him), its not really tangible proof that I am scum; that part is the appended assumption to it.
I mean, really. Consider that I'm 'lurking'; what makes me scum there?
The assumption that 'town = more active'? Uh huh.
...See?
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1257 on: February 12, 2015, 04:34:00 pm »

Maybe I missed it in all the weirdness of your sentence construction, but what I saw was Scripten asking you a bunch of questions, then you attacking him back while ignoring all of the questions. Maybe I just missed them, though. My apologies if I did...
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« Reply #1258 on: February 12, 2015, 04:41:54 pm »

Tiruin:

Because its assumed evidence. That's as substantial as many things in a mafia game.

Okay...?

I suppose this is kind of a moot point. I'm not trying to convince you that you're scum. You already know that. ^.^

Did you remember when I said technical issues? Like, more than you ever asked me that question?
The question you have here is something that I have been carrying for DAYS instead of the minutes it took you to formulate it. Consider that, rather than keeping on labeling me as a lurker with negative associations.

As I've said so many times before, I am judging you based on a ratio of your contributions relative to your posts. I am saying that the posts you DO have are insufficient for me to believe you have town motivations in your play.

That's not that which bugs me.
What bugs me is your lack of branching out onto others. You noted that ZU/Toaster is a second best target for you.
You didn't go into depth or detail about them at all.

This deflection isn't going to work. Though I will consider it for later associative reads.

Dropped it because of what? UXLZ's Medium Intervention?
Sans that kind of evidence--what actually made you drop it? The latter sentence?
I mean, that as much was obvious when you did bring up the consideration.

I'd forgotten that NQT had checked Jim that night. Why are you ragging on me for this? Do you expect it to distract me?

UXLZ:

Maybe I missed it in all the weirdness of your sentence construction, but what I saw was Scripten asking you a bunch of questions, then you attacking him back while ignoring all of the questions. Maybe I just missed them, though. My apologies if I did...

I'm noticing this, too. It's rather bothersome, especially since my questions are not exactly trivial. That being said, I'm not asking for paragraphs per question. I just want something of an answer.

Though, I should probably mention that what Tiruin is doing is not -exactly- chainsaw defense. Chainsaw defense is usually applied to a three-person interaction, where a scum's buddy attacks people for preying on his partner. Nevertheless, Tiruin's reactions are definitely scummy.

She -could- be putting my mind to ease right now, but it seems more likely that she's just trying to heap as much confusion around to avoid having to talk about other people, since she might slip and reveal her partners.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 3 eats Psychics for breakfast
« Reply #1259 on: February 12, 2015, 04:45:34 pm »

I use 'chainsaw defending' slightly different to its usual meaning. I intend it to mean 'Attacking instead of defending.'
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