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[Deus Asmoth]

I still think Pisskop is a poor choice. We can peg him to a night action tonight. Get him to Follow me or UXLZ. See if he gets the same results as Shakerag tomorrow. Someone we know almost nothing about and has yet to post her promised wall of text, like Tiruin would be better.

NQT, I don't want you outright lying to protect Pisskop. Are you in a scum team with Pisskop?

What do we know about Tiruin?

[Cheeetar]

Tiruin has claimed to NQT. Him talking about 'pegging Pisskop to a night action' is just as usable on Tiruin, but NQT has been defending Pisskop nearly the entire game.

[Jim Groovester]

Yeah me too. Looking back over some things...

Can you tell me why pisskop isn't voting somebody he claims to suspect this late in the day?

pisskop not wanting to vote Tiruin because she's not posting is a crap reason.

[notquitethere]

Cheetar

I still think Pisskop is a poor choice. We can peg him to a night action tonight. Get him to Follow me or UXLZ. See if he gets the same results as Shakerag tomorrow. Someone we know almost nothing about and has yet to post her promised wall of text, like Tiruin would be better.

NQT, I don't want you outright lying to protect Pisskop. Are you in a scum team with Pisskop?

I'm not lying. I'm talking about in terms of who a player could be on a team with. There are few people Pisskop could be on a team with. We get less info than usual if we kill him and he flips town. Also, I'm not on a scum team.


Jim

Can you tell me why pisskop isn't voting somebody he claims to suspect this late in the day?

Because he's a dreadful player?

pisskop not wanting to vote Tiruin because she's not posting is a crap reason.

I don't disagree.

I just don't think he's the best pick. I'd rather lynch someone I know very little about and could be on a team with almost anyone. Persus right now would be my pick but there's not the collective will for that.

[Cheeetar]

Follow my logic, NQT.

1) People we can 'peg to a night action' are a poor choice.
2) Tiruin is not a poor choice.
3) We can peg Tiruin to a night action tonight.

They can't all be true, yeah? Which is false?

[Jim Groovester]

Because he's a dreadful player?

Okay, yeah, that's true, but why not give him a little credit and assume there's some intent behind his actions instead of writing off everything he does as bad.

If anything, they're probably both scum, but I want pisskop dead first.

[Cheeetar]

Dreadful doesn't mean town. Bad play doesn't imply innocence.

[Cheeetar]

I still think Pisskop is a poor choice. We can peg him to a night action tonight. Get him to Follow me or UXLZ. See if he gets the same results as Shakerag tomorrow. Someone we know almost nothing about and has yet to post her promised wall of text, like Tiruin would be better.

Problem: What if you're on a scum team with him and tell him where you go?
Problem: What if he's a doppelganger, but also a reporter, and just follows you while his buddies do the scum kill?

What does this mean for day 2, if he follows you he's town? All his scumminess dissolves?

[Jim Groovester]

Also, I disagree with you that Tiruin is a more informative choice. Knowing nothing about Tiruin means that in the event she flips scum, we also learn nothing except that she was scum. Who would her buddies be? What interactions can we look back on for leads?

Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

If pisskop flips scum, we have a bunch of solid reads about a bunch of currently living players, narrowing the field a lot more than with a Tiruin dopp lynch.

pisskop is a better choice.

[notquitethere]

Follow my logic, NQT.

1) People we can 'peg to a night action' are a poor choice.
2) Tiruin is not a poor choice.
3) We can peg Tiruin to a night action tonight.

They can't all be true, yeah? Which is false?

I get exactly where you're coming from Cheetar, I really do. But given two poor choices, I'd rather kill the one with less content. Really, I'd rather not lynch either of them.

Dreadful doesn't mean town. Bad play doesn't imply innocence.

You're absolutely correct.

Problem: What if you're on a scum team with him and tell him where you go?
Problem: What if he's a doppelganger, but also a reporter, and just follows you while his buddies do the scum kill?

What does this mean for day 2, if he follows you he's town? All his scumminess dissolves?

1 isn't a problem for me because I'm not scum. 2 is fine: I want to minimise the number of people that aren't being accounted for at night to create a narrow list of suspects for investigators to look at. I'm not saying he becomes town or anything, it just means he's accounted for at night.

Okay, yeah, that's true, but why not give him a little credit and assume there's some intent behind his actions instead of writing off everything he does as bad.

If anything, they're probably both scum, but I want pisskop dead first.

I really see where you're coming from here, I do, I just think surely, surely he can't be scum with his behaviour. But then, there is refuge in audacity.


We've still got an hour right? I might change my mind here. Need to look back.

[notquitethere]

Also, I disagree with you that Tiruin is a more informative choice. Knowing nothing about Tiruin means that in the event she flips scum, we also learn nothing except that she was scum. Who would her buddies be? What interactions can we look back on for leads?

Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

If pisskop flips scum, we have a bunch of solid reads about a bunch of currently living players, narrowing the field a lot more than with a Tiruin dopp lynch.

pisskop is a better choice.

You know what? I think you're right about this. If Pisskop flips scum then there's only a few players it could be. If he flips town then at the least we won't have him drawing the rest of town's attention onto him while he flails around the thread.

OK. I'm reluctantly convinced. Pisskop.

[Jim Groovester]

We still need a couple more to avoid last minute vote shenanigans.

[Deus Asmoth]

Or you could try lynching someone who isn't town.

[Jim Groovester]

Buuuuuuut that's what I'm doing.

[Scripten]

Eh, whatever. I'll be back tomorrow to push Tiruin's wagon, considering this is the second lynch she's avoided by active lurking.

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