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Author Topic: Paranormal 24 - Game over! Doppelganger Victory!  (Read 219197 times)

Tiruin

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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #615 on: January 30, 2015, 01:01:24 am »

The events of the night, as I see it: MC attacked Toony (flavour mentions MC was the aggressor), Flabort attacked Toony. All three died. If Pisskop did truly watch Toony's place, it would have had to have been a guard other than MC who saved him, and why would the doppelganger protect somebody unless they were also a doppelganger anyway?

An alternative theory:

pisskop performed the nightkill
mastahcheese the Observant Guard protects pisskop
ToonyMan kills mastahcheese protecting pisskop
flabort dies to ToonyMan
Toonyman dies getting killed by flabort and pisskop

I don't know how willing I am to jump aboard this theory but I'm certainly suspicious of pisskop for the convenience of how he managed to target ToonyMan yet somehow didn't die.

It...is strange that he'd claim such though. But considering his...remarks and previous attitude, it is plausible just as much as other theories out there.

Cheeetar: Tiny flaw in your PM plan (which I am so late to notice :V)
...We only get night actions resolved when day starts (I mean, sure, there's this note of a lapse of time between Meph sending out results and 'officially' starting the day, but that'd be REALLY nitpicky...
...Until I recall that you'd also be sent a death message along with the night results >.>).
So knowing the result and then telling everyone about it, would...not occur.
UNLESS, however, you tell those trusted/otherwise about who you will target ahead of time--it seems like a more valid plan, post-massclaim.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #616 on: January 30, 2015, 01:03:11 am »

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  I blatently told everyone there was a bodyguard.  It was in Flabots Pm, which he sent you, and you posted.
Everyone? :V
Why I get no PMs!? GAHHHHHH.
But really. I got nothing.

What did you receive anyway?
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #617 on: January 30, 2015, 01:21:43 am »

Ah. My bad, Tiruin, I misphrased the PM to you. Here's what I wrote:

Hi! I'm sending a PM to 4 people in the event of my death. I'd like them to quote it for me. These people are:
Notquitethere
Jim Groovester
Mastahcheese
Deus Asmoth

If I do die, and they don't quote it, remind them for me? Thanks!

I've highlighted the error in orange. That shouldn't have been a period- I meant to say that I sent it to them with the intent that they'd quote it if I died. Not that I was going to be sending a PM to those people if I died. This is just really poor phrasing on my part, my bad.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #618 on: January 30, 2015, 01:25:30 am »

Hmm?
Oh I meant by your plan in D1 :P
Though I did receive that (for some reason o_O) and replied cordially.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #619 on: January 30, 2015, 01:30:03 am »

Yeah. I'm going to have to agree with Jim and vote pisskop unless someone claims guardian.

Why did you think that Flabort was pretty scummy?
I thought he was panicking scum after 4mask detailed his plan, which a scum player thought there would be no way out unless to reveal everything to everyone.

I blatently told everyone there was a bodyguard.  It was in Flabots Pm, which he sent you, and you posted.
What was in Flabort's PM.

Can someone please summarize all the PM things that are going on? I got a bunch from Tiruin and I think they relate to one of Cheetar's plans?
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #620 on: January 30, 2015, 01:34:22 am »

Yeah. I'm going to have to agree with Jim and vote pisskop unless someone claims guardian.
...Someone should claim to save him, and that helps...why? (Other than validate an on-going theory)

Also the Cheeetar thing was...seemingly random :o I understood it as 'hey, know this thing', because the only ones present are Me and Cheeet--so I inferred it was a PM of correspondence and such.
The PMs I sent that y'all know are...the ones I sent explaining my situation during N1 about activity. Nothing big there, and I've not started any PM to anyone other than that.

...For probably all other PM things, I'm unsure. There were indications that y'all had reports that some of us didn't receive (ie me and Toony didn't get some PMs, which seemed to be mass PMs as people say, and such)
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #621 on: January 30, 2015, 01:45:50 am »

Can someone please summarize all the PM things that are going on? I got a bunch from Tiruin and I think they relate to one of Cheetar's plans?

There are a bunch of dumb PM shenanigans going on in this game.

pisskop revealed that a bodyguard contacted him in this PM series between him and flabort, which flabort PMed to me so I would post them.

Other dumb PM shenanigans going on in this game are 4maskwolf's gambit at the start of Day 1 where he PMed mastahcheese, flabort, and Deus Asmoth that he was a Human Reporter and that if he died everybody would know it was one of the three people he PMed. This caused the big ruckus on Day 1.

UXLZ PMed some people his reads on Deathsword.

NQT PMed flabort about backing him up after flabort claimed vig.

Cheeetar PMed a bunch of people during N1 that flabort wasn't a dopp and it was part of some plan he and flabort cooked up to clear flabort in the event of Cheeetar's death. Cheeetar explains that here.

There are probably some other dumb PM shenanigans going on that I don't even know about and probably ones I've forgotten.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #622 on: January 30, 2015, 02:51:41 am »

Flabort had no hand in my dumb PM shenanigans, Jim.

Unvote Zombie Urist. I can empathise with seeing Flabort as being a bit too panicky in regards his interactions with 4mask- especially the role claiming. You really should have read on further, though. Vote Pisskop. I'm not buying his reporter claim one bit given the events of the night, and his conduct day 1 was scummy to the extreme. I think it's far more likely that he was scum that Mastahcheese was protecting than anything else.

Scripten, would you please outline your case on Tiruin beyond 'she was inactive'? You claimed that mastacheese was amicable to her- would you be able to provide the relevant posts in quote form?
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #623 on: January 30, 2015, 02:52:40 am »

Well, insofar as he never intended our dumb PM shenanigans to go beyond him and me. I didn't tell him I'd be PMing anybody that he was town if I died, because that would be stupid.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #624 on: January 30, 2015, 05:24:47 am »

I think I've got all the evidence to blow this case wide open, but I'm out of town until Sunday: I can read and respond to questions, but no proper analysis until then.

Pisskop, did you watch or follow Toony? Do you know the difference?

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Flabort sent this to me and Cheese (who we now know was scum):

I think I've made my choice.

I'm picking my target for the reason that of my top three suspects, the scum may have protected one or two to spite me or prevent my kill going through, one has stuff that he needs to post in the morning to prove his towniness and will get lynched if he really is scum, and the third JUST got replaced in, so I'll give her a night to live.

You can relay this to the thread, I'd prefer if it doesn't leave this small circle during the night, but I have picked my target now.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #625 on: January 30, 2015, 07:14:30 am »

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pisskop: Cheeetar, zombie urist, Jim Groovester
zombie urist: Persus13
Persus13: pisskop
Tiruin: Scripten



Day ends ~5pm Pacific Tuesday

Meph, do we know whether mastahcheese died while he was guarding somebody?
All you know from the day's start is that: flabort and mastahcheese were are ToonyMan's house. Both were killed by bullets. ToonyMan was both shot and attacked by a doppelganger.
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #626 on: January 30, 2015, 07:44:02 am »

NQT, I find that question as insulting as I find their assumptions silly.

  I lied about my alignment, but not who I visited?
  I lied about my flavor text, but not who was described in it?
  I lied about so who I visited, but Im extra scummy

All these accusations that rely upon me being so new to the game Im 2dumb2live.  Anyone who l
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #627 on: January 30, 2015, 07:47:55 am »

NQT, I find that question as insulting as I find their assumptions silly.

  I lied about my alignment, but not who I visited?
  I lied about my flavor text, but not who was described in it?
  I lied about so who I visited, but Im extra scummy

All these accusations that rely upon me being so new to the game Im 2dumb2live.  Anyone who has played 1 game as scum, and has an idea of the mod's style can fake flavor.  Its exasperating to see so many holes in the mob justice squad.

  Tiruin beds Jim, in front of the whole game, and Im the scum? >.<
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #628 on: January 30, 2015, 07:50:18 am »

flabort: from that PM I guess we can assume that your top three suspects were ZU, Tooney and Pisskop. Have your opinions on any of them changed after last night?
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Re: Paranormal 24 - Day 2 dawns in blood
« Reply #629 on: January 30, 2015, 07:51:13 am »

flabort's dead, bro
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