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[pisskop]

. . .(PFP btw)
Pisskop, why're you revealing you action'd Toony, when such a query could be PM'd to Meph? (unless, y'know, you wanted it known, as the basic implication?)

Meh?  I guess I jumped up.  I would like to congratulate whomever saved me, after all.

[Deus Asmoth]

Tiruin: Since pisskop's role has already been claimed, what would he benefit from not telling people about his night action?

ZU:

-I went to Tooney, just in time to get my ass saved.  My night action was to see who visited Tooney.

This doesn't make any sense. War Vet kills on the actor's turn, so you should have died if you visited ToonyMan.

Judging by the purple bit, I'd guess that someone was guarding him for the night. Could have been Mastahcheese, for whatever reason, though that wouldn't explain why cheese wounded Tooney.

[Jim Groovester]

This doesn't make any sense. War Vet kills on the actor's turn, so you should have died if you visited ToonyMan.

I think he may have been guarded.

Meph, do the sacrificial guards die if their target visits a War Vet?

[pisskop]

Wait.  WHO WAS THE NK?

[pisskop]

-Oh.  Tooney.

[Persus13]

So flabort went for Toony instead of Shakerag, maybe Shakerag will actually be interested in playing now.

Meanwhile, MC's only two votes were on Pisskop and Scripten, for what it's worth.

Whose post had the bandwagon tracker vote analysis in it? I'm trying to find that post to see where MC's post in the wagon fell.


Zombie Urist:Reasoning behind that Flabort vote you dropped with no reasoning day end yesterday?

Soo, I'm extra confused at what exactly happened.

-Masta went to Tooney, and got shot.
-Flabort went to shoot Tooney, and got shot.
-Tooney took a nasty wound and died of the bloodloss.
-I went to Tooney, just in time to get my ass saved.  My night action was to see who visited Tooney.

Incoming prepared post.

I believe MC was carrying out the mafia kill on Toony and got killed.
The OP says that following a War vet is fatal. It doesn't mention anything about watching a war vet.

I would like to say that Persus13 hasn't posted in many hours.  If you consider the time from 5pm - now, that almost 2 days.

I haven't posted for 2 days? Oh wait, its been night all this time. Also, did you miss the last post where I commented that I was in no condition to post until after Tuesday and gave several reasons. Obviously not because you decided to look through my posts and vote me.

  Second.  Tiruin hasn't voted yet.  Ever.

I think everyone's noticed this by now. What does this mean to you? Do you think this makes her scummy?

Zombie Urist

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

  The basics:  You only have 4 [poor] posts.

498:  -'I can replace in'
507:  -'Got my post I'll read through I get a post up later today.'
523:  - 'I'm lazy.' . . . 'why vote Tiriun' . . . 'Expect me to completely reverse my opinion of NQT sometime this game. But he's right that its unlikely that both are scum.'  . . . ' I'll switch my vote to Flabort if there's a tie at day end'.
533:  - A Flabort Vote.

1)  Have you caught up?
2)  Do you have reads?
3)  Can we get an idea of who you find the towniest/scummiest?  I'd prefer 4 of each, but as long as we can get a few.
4)  What did you think make of TDSs 'lie down' lynch?  He didn't fight it.
5)  How do you feel about the PMs that were made public?
6)  What do you feel is an effective use of 'free-for-all' whispering?
7)  How do you feel about lurkers, and who would you consider lurking at this point?

ZU is Deathsword's replacement, in case you didn't know.

Flabort

Hopefully you are still alive.

He's not.

Quote from: pisskop on 26 January 2015, 18:04:18
Flabort, who were you talking to in the PM you referenced in our Private Chat?
TolyK. Not really, but search the thread, you'll find "him", you'll figure out who I mean.

TolyK isn't in this game.  Pkease check your games.

He knows that TOlyK isn't in the game, hence the part of this quote that said "Not really", flabort was referencing a post in this game that asked observant players to PM him. Clearly you didn't see that.

Persus13

  Bad scumbag.

Because?

  -Persus 3rd on the Flabort wagon, VC03 Link
Not true, I was second. You probably made this mistake by looking at Meph's votecount after my vote:

flabort: 4maskwolf, Deus Asmoth, Persus13, Toaster

Thing is, DA and Toaster both voted flabort after I did, and Toaster would have been third not me. Now, why is being third on the flabort wagon scummy?

  -Votes extend with Flabort on the guillotine.  Link

So what does this mean?

  -No content, aggressive, lurking.

Really, and I'm scum because?


Meph: Would a reporter watching a war vet result in the reporter's death?

PPE: Stop posting before I can!

[zombie urist]

I guess that makes sense. In that case Pisskop is probably town. Unvote

498:  -'I can replace in'
507:  -'Got my post I'll read through I get a post up later today.'
523:  - 'I'm lazy.' . . . 'why vote Tiriun' . . . 'Expect me to completely reverse my opinion of NQT sometime this game. But he's right that its unlikely that both are scum.'  . . . ' I'll switch my vote to Flabort if there's a tie at day end'.
533:  - A Flabort Vote.
1)  Have you caught up?
2)  Do you have reads?
3)  Can we get an idea of who you find the towniest/scummiest?  I'd prefer 4 of each, but as long as we can get a few.
4)  What did you think make of TDSs 'lie down' lynch?  He didn't fight it.
5)  How do you feel about the PMs that were made public?
6)  What do you feel is an effective use of 'free-for-all' whispering?
7)  How do you feel about lurkers, and who would you consider lurking at this point?

1. Yes 2. Yes 3. No 4. I think he's a spore spreader. 5. I don't think 4mask's plan would have worked as well as he thought. 6. I don't really think its useful except for cops who got town results. 7. Lurkers are bad. Don't know.

Notable people
NQT - Flabort was town and its too dangerous to let a vigilante live. On the other hand, in this post he voted ToonyMan for his weak vote on Mastahcheese.
Pisskop - don't think mastahcheese would put Pisskop in danger of getting lynched. I guess his claim would be more reliable if someone flips guard.
Scripten - is actually probably town for writing a big wall of text to Mastahcheese

[Persus13]

quote author=Persus13 link=topic=147607.msg5996109#msg5996109 date=1422584663]
Whose post had the bandwagon tracker vote analysis in it? I'm trying to find that post to see where MC's vote in the pisskop wagon fell.[/quote]
Fixed

Where did the idea of pisskop being guarded come from? I'm fairly certain guarding wouldn't protect against visiting a War Vet, and pisskop would probably have known if he got guarded and attacked.

4)  What did you think make of TDSs 'lie down' lynch?  He didn't fight it.

4. I think he's a spore spreader.
[/quote]
My two cents are :He probably was off-line at the time.

[Jim Groovester]

Where did the idea of pisskop being guarded come from? I'm fairly certain guarding wouldn't protect against visiting a War Vet, and pisskop would probably have known if he got guarded and attacked.

pisskop claimed somebody saved him. If I understand how Reporters and War Vets work he really should be dead if he targeted ToonyMan. He's not dead so it seems likely he was protected by somebody.

-I went to Tooney, just in time to get my ass saved.  My night action was to see who visited Tooney.

[Mephansteras]

Meph, do the sacrificial guards die if their target visits a War Vet?

Yes. They would die in their place, as with any night kill.

[Scripten]

I'm pretty sure someone psychic roleblocked me, just for the sake of mentioning overnight actions. (In case anyone wanted to do numerical analysis.) Need some time to parse the game with the flips taken into account before I start today, though.

[Jim Groovester]

Meph, do the sacrificial guards die if their target visits a War Vet?

Yes. They would die in their place, as with any night kill.

Also, do Reporters die to War Vets whether they follow or watch?

[Cheeetar]

The events of the night, as I see it: MC attacked Toony (flavour mentions MC was the aggressor), Flabort attacked Toony. All three died. If Pisskop did truly watch Toony's place, it would have had to have been a guard other than MC who saved him, and why would the doppelganger protect somebody unless they were also a doppelganger anyway?

Given that TDS turned out Spore Spreader, I don't think those voting him were more likely doppelganger or town. However, I do think those still voting Flabort at day's end are suspicious, especially Zombie Urist. Why did you vote for Flabort?

Mephansteras, does the reporter die if they watch the home of a war vet to see who interacts with them?

Pisskop, Mastahcheese did not defend you, did he?

Cheeetar, how were you so sure that flabort wasn't mafia?

Spoiler: Night PMs Flabort sent me (click to show/hide)

You claimed to have two votes, right?

The only role that can do that is an enchanter.

And due to some stuff you said in thread, I'm pegging you as town. Specifically, not knowing how many dopps there were. And you can't be an alien if you're an enchanter.

This might make you the hub of several PMs, since both things are in the thread but I trust you.

My kill target tonight is not shakerag. The scum, if they have any protective or redirective roles, are probably going to prevent me from killing Shakerag anyways. Pisskop is going to be confirmed as one or the other in thread first thing in the morning, and there's no point to killing him. TheDarkStar is dead. Zombie Urist just replaced in so I'm giving her a night out of pity.

While some others encouraged killing Tiruin, I'm disregarding that too.

Can I trust you with the information of who I'm really going to kill tonight?

Unless I'm a doppelganger, you can. I'm not a doppelganger. What is the motivation for you telling me who you're going to kill?

Having an all-but confirmed towny back me up when I reveal that I meant to kill Toonyman all along.

And having someone I can trust more than NQT; he's great, but I can't confirm if he's town or not. You didn't know the size of the scum team and claimed Enchanter, so you have to be human. I trust that this is correct, and trust you.

I don't believe Flabort, as doppelganger, would give information to me to reveal in the event of his death and then also as doppelganger arrange my death. Thus: If I died, it was not part of Flabort's plans, and thus Flabort would not be doppelganger.

[Mephansteras]

Meph, do the sacrificial guards die if their target visits a War Vet?

Yes. They would die in their place, as with any night kill.

Also, do Reporters die to War Vets whether they follow or watch?

Yes, they do.

[TheDarkStar]

Dead DarkStar is dead.
I hoped to survive Day One.
Also, bah.