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[pisskop]

I didnt.  That was highlighting a suspected power role.

[Cheeetar]

I don't understand the redaction, then. "I suspect <power role>" doesn't make sense as a sentence. Would you be able to explain more what you used the square brackets for, and what you used the angled brackets for?

[pisskop]

Youre killing me.  It does indeed make sense, if you consider
1 how I frame my thoughts
2  that I have, and still have, zero proof.

And if it was even a susected scumread, its not relevant to this topic.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
zombie urist: Cheeetar, Deus Asmoth, Persus13
Tiruin: Scripten
UXLZ: zombie urist


Day ends ~5pm Pacific Tuesday

[zombie urist]

Yeah it looks like I misremembered what the guardian did, so I take back most of what I said about that.

[Deus Asmoth]

Perseus: I never said that pisskop was confirmed, I just considered him more likely to be town than flabort based on the day's actions. I don't think that Cheetar is scum based off how he believed flabort, but his surety of pisskop being scum when his behavious was pretty similar to flabort's until recently concerned me.

[pisskop]

D2 has provided some interesting content thus far, but more from the lurkers please.


WRT Tiruin

-What do you think of Tiruin's activity today as compared to yesterday?
  -Nobody is doubting she had irl things happening.  Do you think it is the result of her scumbuddy getting lynched there is also an ingame reason for it?
-The purpose of her questions today lend themselves to either postulating about my role/night action, questioning my credibility, or gathering information related to my role.
  -Is this normal Tiruin play?
 

WRT Zombie Urist
-ZU has played this day horribly.  Between dodging questions, demanding people claim town roles, and refusing to offer content.
  -DA  claims to have sent his night action to Mastacheese, a confirmed Dopp, does anyone think Masta wouldn't tell his scumteam, or that ZU would feign ignorance?
    I don't, so points for him there.


WRT Shaker
Wake up.  I'm fairly tolerant of lurkers in D1, but D2 lurkers are in line to get lynched.  You are now, by my accounts, the lurkiest player.
 Get into the game.


WRT the concept that I killed Tooney.
Hogwash.  Want compelling evidence?
  -DA guarded me.  DA also got a PM from Meph describing saving me.  How can 2 people save me from death?
-Consider asking Meph how 2 bodyguards guarding the same person gets resolved.
  -You can continue reaching for these convoluted schemes if you'd prefer, but Occam's Razor is calling you a sillyhead, and I' accusing you of actively trying to stagnant the game.

Spoiler: Tiruin's Questions (click to show/hide)

Tiruin, who would you say are the three most scummy people at the moment?

PFP

From my reads and logic onto the claimed roles overwriting some reads (yeah pisskop was high on the list <_<)

Mastahcheese is a Dopp Guard.


    Cheetar
    Jim Groovester
    Persus13
    Shakerag
    UXLZ
    Scripten
    notquitethere
    zombie urist

    Tiruin -- Is a me!

    Toaster
    Deus Asmoth -- Interlinked with pisskop
    pisskop -- Interlinked with Deus. The only possible conclusion is that both are scum (if one is town and the other is not--it'll end in many combinations which won't apply since PISSKOP > Toony, as claimed. Deus > PISSKOP, as claimed.)

This is your list, in order of scumminess?  With Toaster, Deus, and I removed for reasons?
  Do you care to offer reasons as to why you the people on the two extremes there?  Namely Jim and ZU.

@tiruin.  Nope, not 'personal'.  Just I said it in such a way
  Bed, as in extreme buddying.

...Extreme buddying is...acknowledging the validity of a theory?

Almost all of your activity today had been focused around me, or those who had dealings with me specifically because they had dealings with me.
  At the time of my posting that, it was looking a lot more like you had thrown yourself wholeheartedly into the bandwagon.

[...]
  I blatently told everyone there was a bodyguard.  It was in Flabots Pm, which he sent you, and you posted.

Everyone? :V
Why I get no PMs!? GAHHHHHH.
But really. I got nothing.

What did you receive anyway?

Everyone should have been able to predict that I knew who the town bodyguard was.  Unless they didn't read for whatever reason.

There is a bodyguard in the game.

  Second.  Tiruin hasn't voted yet.  Ever.

So what do you understand of my lack of vote?

Nothing.  It seems to fit the rest of your style of play.  Nobody has made any waves about it, so I'm concluding that you don't place it lightly.  /the exact opposite of me, then :b

Why not Tiruin? You ended the day voting her. Why not any of your other suspects from Day 1?

  If Tiruin is scum, and she knows I am town-aligned, than she wouldn't perform the kill herself.  That the Bodyguard of the scum performed the kill is interesting evidence for just that.

Also your logic is flawed here
If I'm scum, then...what?
That conclusion (in orange) has pretty much more assumptions to it :V
Unless somehow you mindread me that 'ohgods I know he's a reporter and I know he'll track me! Evasive measures, go, go!'

Mafia Theory as I understand it, is based on percentages and wifom  My what-if was whether or not you would, if scum, suspect that I would be new/naive/cunning/w.e. enough to target you, as others [Jim] [Cheeetar] seem to think I would.

Hunh.  I reread today, and have a much better interpretation of Tiruin than I did prior to that.

[zombie urist]

Actually, the stupidest reason is 'because they told me not to.'
And no, the reason I'm not voting for you at the moment isn't because I 'know you're town' (nice empty and pointless claim, by the way), it's because I prefer to only vote for someone once I'm convinced enough to let it sit unless something major happens to disrupt it.

So the reason you're not voting is you're not convinced anyone is scum. Great.

More later.

[Jim Groovester]

I've been kind of occupied for Day 2. I'll probably hit up Day 1 for reads over the course of the weekend.

UXLZ hasn't yet made a solid attack on anyone so far and I doubt he has any real suspects. So:

While you were sifting through for low-content posts to base your suspicion for me off of, you may have just so happened to miss the two large 'attacks' I made on people... TDS, and the person you replaced in for, DeathSword.
Also, you do realise that most of those 'junk' posts you quoted were actually fairly relevant, right? Given how many I actually have total, surely you can find something better than that. I know from memory there were one or two where I was just teasing Tiruin.

Attacking lurkers doesn't mean much.

At the moment I'm mostly just waiting for NQT's 'big reveal.' Also, I'm back at school now so my overall activity will probably go downwards.

That's pretty lazy. Why are you waiting for notquitethere to provide you leads?

At the moment my biggest suspect is ZU. I don't want to vote for them yet because they just replaced in, however, and I realise that most (though not all) of that suspicion is leaking over from Deathsword's actions.

He's had plenty of time since replacing in. He's had some of Day 1, all of Night 1, and started Day 2. The grace period for being a replacement has passed.

Why aren't you voting for him then?

Do you know who TolyK is, yet, by the way?

It's notquitethere. flabort made it completely obvious that that was who he was talking about.

Toaster did nothing or was busy on Survival last night (was info passed onto me, I shan't tell whom--I didn't start the conversation though with that person)

Hm, interesting. I could see Toaster being a Survivor with how invisible he's been making himself lately.

[Cheeetar]

Unvote Zombie Urist- ignorance doesn't mean malice and all that.

Youre killing me.  It does indeed make sense, if you consider
1 how I frame my thoughts
2  that I have, and still have, zero proof.

And if it was even a susected scumread, its not relevant to this topic.

Can anybody who received Pisskop's PM, which he is unable to explain himself, confirm that they received it and shed some light on what it actually meant?

Speaking of questions that Pisskop never answered:

Pisskop

Isnt it obvious?  DA was in 4masks pm group.  When I placed I sent out PMs.

...Could you remind me on how 4mask's PM invoked DA to tell he's a Guardian, for some reason?

Hey DA:

The question back there, expounded, is this:
What made you trust the claimed Reporter and decided to tell your role as a GUARDIAN to said REPORTER?

[Deus Asmoth]

Cheeetar: This is relevant:

Mask revealed his claimed role to me, cheese and flabort. Flabort revealed his claim to the entire game. I figured that this would result in Mask getting night killed, so I told him my role and asked him if he was telling the truth and his real gambit wasn't to try ensure a night kill on himself because of being a veteran or something. After some of pisskop's behaviour during the day made me more uneasy about the arrangement, I told NQT and cheese what was going on so that if I got night killed they'd know pisskop likely had something to do with it. Then cheese turned out to be scum so I had no reason not to reveal my role to the rest of the town when there was a reason to. That's everything, I think.

In more detail about why I told him the role, I suspected that Mask was a veteran trying to get as many scum or third parties to target him in the night as he could, but I also thought he was town based off his behaviour and the role he'd claimed (if he were scum, claiming agent would be more likely to get him correct results and third parties would be less likely to disagree with him). I told him my role so that he'd have a reason to answer me when I asked him if he was a veteran or not.

[Cheeetar]

Alright- that does actually make a modicum of sense.

Pisskop: I got an anonymous tip about the flavour you claimed. Apparently, the window was already broken when you were shot at. It wasn't broken by you being shot at. What's the deal with that? Also: Who were you PMing those power role suspicions?

Possible theory: Pisskop actually is a reporter, just a doppelganger one. They were looking to scumkill Toony as well as watch where he was going so they could potentially pin something on the person he visited. DA is an innocent townie fooled by Pisskop?

[pisskop]

Well, that would out you as a medium then, wouldnt it?
  Everyone who was there died.


Cheeetar

[Jim Groovester]

sigh

Why are you voting Cheeetar?

[pisskop]

Becqus