Holy crap. ~50 posts to reply to, at least almost a full page. I can't decide whether to answer in order or not.
OK, not. I'll answer the important things first. This is going to be a huge-ass post.
flabort: Is Jim the one you're collaborating with in regard to your night kill? Considering that he's previously said that he's against directing the kill of our vigilante, I think it'd be worth telling the rest of us if he's behaving so hypocritically. A yes/no will suffice if you don't want to reveal the identity of your partner in crime.
Hell no. I BCC'd him because I KNEW he'd post it in the thread. Which he did. Because I knew he was opposed to telling the vig who to kill.
He is not the person I talked with.
EBWOP:
Also I suggested some names. If Flabort is going to name names I'm going to suggest he also name his handler; the one who is dictating who he will shoot. Because he has one.
Emphasis mine:
Pisskop, nobody but you gave me a list of 'acceptable targets' or 'suggestions'. YOU were the one telling me who to kill, dictating who you wanted dead.
The other person? Only asked who I planned to kill at the time so that when it happened they could back me up on it. And when I listed your name as one of the targets, they said
My advice, which you can take or ignore at your leisure: kill Shakerag. Pisskop's role can be confirmed by asking who he targeted tomorrow and getting that player to confirm the truth/falsity of his action claim. Also, if you kill him and he flips human reporter then regardless of your alignment, you'll be lynched D2. Right now, we don't know anything about Shakerag.
So I object to your use of the term handler to describe this person, who I may or may not reveal later in this post. Because all they did was say "I support you" and "Don't kill pisskop, just in case he's town".
Since (as of the time of your post) it's more than 24 hours to day end, not voting your top suspect is also an offense.
Toaster for similar to Jim on votes, and mostly being unreadable (Due to brevity of sentence structure?)
You sound like my mother. (Who is an English teacher and always got on to me for that when I wrote papers in school.)
Also, where is Shakerag "jestering?"
OK, well I'm back to voting them now. Anyways, if using my vote effectively by preventing ties is scummy, I don't care about that.
Check most of Shakerag's posts.
This: is just asking for someone to ask questions.
This is the same. But those aren't what I wanted to touch on.
Off-topic Vote-baiting posts like these are why I suspect he's a
jester, or
purposely acting like one.
Flabort: You don't have to kill those people. Those days are over. You don't have to sell your body to the night nightkill anybody except those who you believe are scummy, and even if you think those proposed to your by Mr. Private are scummy, pick someone else just so scum can't plan around your kill. Nobody should be dictating who you're killing except you.
Just because pisskop sold you on the idea that I was being coerced into killing who someone else wanted me to, doesn't mean I was. The only person Dictating was pisskop. Also, he has some sort of thing for you, since he asked about you twice in the first list and again in the second.
He claimed reporter, in that he can follow people to see where they go.
Or more importantly, see who visits someone, which if we are to let him go again, and if he is to target me, I would rather he do than seeing who I visit, because he could gather a lot more information than one target.
I'm overdue for voting him, TheDarkStar
Buh? You, of all people? Weren't you AGAINST that lynch earlier?
Jim is -null-. Nothing on him either way, but I know nothing about him, so I'm watchful.
Shakerag is looking, so there is that.
TheDarkStar I am suspicious of, but have nothing to present.
Never mind, you were on the wagon before you voted, I just didn't see it. These other two are interesting, though.
Firstly, you've just jumped from a null read to a full on scum read of Jim.
Why?But also interesting is your read of Shakerag. Is that a town read? A neutral read? It's very unclear, but positive towards him.
neato. I can approve. But I don't get shaker, personally.
And here, in the PMs. You say you don't understand why I want to kill shakerag. I've been scum reading him this whole time, and you can't understand that? OK. So, you imply that you'd rather he be alive. OK. Why do you not want to give a clear read on shakerag, and why do you not want me to kill him?
-He was hoping to snowball Cheetar's vote (scum)
WTF does this mean?
UXLZ
Then why didn't you quote my one as well? I feel left out. D;
You've been talking to others but not me? 
. . .
Jim
. . . and so have you, Jim. Are you the one who is advising Flabort?
Why would UXLZ talk to you in private? Nobody trusts you, pisskop. Wake up and smell the coffee. I brew it fresh every 20 minutes. If you can't see that you're suspicious, then it's because you're not paying attention. I bet you didn't even PM TolyK.
And again, no, Jim is not the one 'advising' me. Which actually is the most accurately you've put it so far.
TolyK Have you received any PMs from pisskop after your prompt? Sorry about revealing it.
Yes I know TolyK is not playing, I'm not the only one to address him.
Flabort
Its not a hitlist. Let's stop calling it that. I made you suggestions, based upon how I felt at the time.
You say based on how you felt at that time; they were who you wanted dead at that time. It was a list of people you wanted dead. That's a hitlist, by definition. It wasn't made a mandatory thing, no, but it's still a hitlist.
I responded, and His rrply indicated that he does NOT want me killing one of my two targets I chose. Pisskop, why are you buddying shakerag?
You are going to have to show me where I buddied Shaker. This is exactly why I think he is town. It's almost too nonlogical to be a calculating scum
Check the PM above. If you're not paying attention and can't see it, here:
neato. I can approve. But I don't get shaker, personally.
Why don't you 'get' that I find shakerag suspicious? Why is this "personal" to you?
PFP so can't quote now, but Tiruin should have recieved the conversation, so she can, maybe. If not, then Jim.
I've already asked Tiruin about her PMs she received, and she has not responded. She claims to have never received PMs, and yet Flabort trusts her enough to send her a copy of his select portions of our conversation. She is very clearly lying, and as I see it now She and Jim make a decent scum-pair.
I sent it to multiple people. I was just mistaken this morning, and THOUGHT that I had sent it to one more person than I did. Sorry, Tiruin, I meant to BCC you.
Jim, NQT, and UXLZ were the recepients of the PM.
Flabort, who were you talking to in the PM you referenced in our Private Chat?
TolyK. Not really, but search the thread, you'll find "him", you'll figure out who I mean.
PPE: pisskop, who exactly is it that you think is manipulating flabort? Tiruin or Jim? Why is it so much worse than your own suggestions about who he should kill?
I especially agree with this cyan part. Why do you think you're in the right when "TolyK" is in the wrong?
What makes what you're doing any less scummy than this:
Who were you thinking of killing tonight if you're not lynched? If you tell me, I can confirm that that was your intention when people question you tomorrow. Also, this way you don't have to declare it in the thread (giving your target unnecessary warning).
I don't know who you made plans with previously but I don't think you should be listening to anybody on who you decide to kill, and certainly not pisskop.
I know that. Why do you think I exposed his slot's
third PM based gambit by forwarding it to you?
Pisskop's slot has been acting strangely, and is posting style makes me reflexively want to lynch the crap out of him, but I can see potential town motive in him trying to push Flabort to vig players. (He's a watcher variant, isn't he?)
You make it seem like pisskop's role is an important part of whatever potential town motive he has for telling flabort who he wants dead.
I don't see it, personally.
And neither do I.
We have this issue where pisskop is saying "flabort thinks I'm scum!" while flabort agrees to not kill him, and instead says he's planning on killing Shake or TDS, so now Shake is depressed.
This whole time, I've been trying to wrap my head around things, to see who is scummiest. But now there's so many people irritating me, that I'm actually feeling inclined to agree with Jim, of all people.
Because I'm willing to keep an open mind, I agreed that on the 1% chance that pisskop is town I wouldn't kill him, because him flipping town would lead to me being lynched immediately.
And what's wrong with agreeing with Jim? At least, right now.
I think I've discovered a way to find out whether it's Jim that's trying to manipulate flabort even sooner than you were thinking. It's at the top of this post.
Nope, don't have any PMs from Shakerag.
-writing up a long post about the last four hundred posts now, I apologize for the absence and weekend inactivity-
Glad you could join us. It seems you're not the current lynch candidate, but you came awfully close. How does that make you feel? What do you think of the current shenanigans?
Pisskop.
Is there any bandwagon you won't jump on?
I don't think he's voted for me yet. Especially not when there was a wagon on me. Is there still one? I need a vote count.
Unofficial:
TDS: UXLZ, Deus
Pisskop: cheeetar, flabort, mastahcheese, Jimbot
Tiruin: Pisskop, scripten, NQT
UXLZ: Shakerag
Flabort: Toaster, TDS
Shakerag: Toonyman
Not voting: Persus, Deathsword
Eh, I guess there is a small one.
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