Jim:
Should we begin a massclaim?
I think so.
I am a Reporter.
N1 I followed mastahcheese because of his bandwagoning. He visited ToonyMan, as we already know.
N2 I followed Scripten because I had a lingering suspicion of him after pisskop's flip. However, I was blocked by a Psychic Warden.
Is this one reason you were so suspicious of pisskop?
I don't see what this quote has to do with why I suspected pisskop.
N2 I blocked Jim.
Maybe you shouldn't have because I would be dead.
Nice forward thinking there.
Basically everyone is "meh" or "lurking".
This is untrue. I have town reads and I have scum reads and there are people I feel ambivalent about. How is this unusual?
Ambivalence is apparently forbidden. Only strong opinions and absolutes are allowed in games of mafia.
Also Jim said I was kinda scummy without any evidence or basically any prior suspicions.
Your bandwagon on flabort at the end of Day 1 was suspicious.
These D1 reads aren't great either.
. . .
Jim was right about TDS, but TDS was 3rd party so it doesn't really mean Jim is town. The rest are just discussing the Flabort/4mask thingy.
'Jim was right but his reads still sucked. Also he talked about the only thing that happened on Day 1 but that doesn't count.'
Also note here that Jim said Pisskop was being new-ish and then in D2 basically pushed for his lynch.
A lot more happened on Day 1 and this was not my final opinion on pisskop for Day 1, so you're being extraordinarily negligent with your argument.
You failed to notice (or failed to mention) that I voted pisskop for PMing flabort his kill list and then unvoted him after he started being really paranoid. I'm not a stranger to suspecting pisskop in this game.
I browsed through your linked posts and found nothing that said "HEY LOOK HE'S DOING THAT THING HE DID AS SCUM" but I'm not an expert on your meta and your posts don't look outrageously out of the ordinary anyway, so it ultimately tells me nothing.
Further, this is the wrong meta argument. The proper meta argument would have been 'I am occasionally known to compliment players' playstyles as both scum and town and here are instances where that happens.' Instead you present me 'Here's me interacting with a scumbuddy and adequately handling his pressure.'
If anything, you complimenting your voter's playstyle is outside your meta as you've presented it to me, which is even more interesting and even more worth pursuing especially given mastahcheese's alignment.
Citing your meta doesn't significantly sway me one way or the other.
Unvote. Congratulations, you have successfully appealed to your meta.
This backpedalling is pretty hilarious. How did Scripten successfully appeal to his meta?
What's so unclear about it? Did you read it? Maybe you should read it again. The entire exchange between me and Scripten, that is.
Scripten provided a meta argument in his favor. He provided examples of him complimenting other players in other games. If it's not outside of his meta to compliment people then it shouldn't be too outrageous that he would compliment mastahcheese despite his flip.
It's not backpedaling. Scripten and I went back and forth several times before I decided to unvote him.
This itself is very weak. The entirety of the suspicion is that mastahcheese looked like he was bandwagoning.
But he was bandwagoning!
The dude voted Scripten and pisskop in the same exasperated, flabbergasted tone. He basically said "Fuck it! I'm voting _____" for each vote, which is why it was so apparent that he was bandwagoning.
I'd also like to know what made Jim change his mind about Pisskop being nooby to being scummy.
I spent all goddamn day arguing with pisskop. I was on the fence about voting him pretty much all of the day because he kept doing scummy shit.
A sampling of scummy things that made me suspect pisskop on Day 2:
Failing to vote Tiruin at the end of the day despite saying he suspected her
Trying to convince Cheeetar to lynch me without first voting me
pisskop only suspecting me on Day 2 after I try to convince people not to treat him as autotown
pisskop's 'reaction test' on Cheeetar and trying to get him to claim who the medium was
This is super super super lazy. And from what it looks like, this vote is basically due to Pisskop saying Jim's reads are bad, which I have to agree that they are.
So after spending all of Day 2 arguing with pisskop over a bunch of shit, you conclude that I voted him because he called my reads bad, and not for any of the other stuff he did.
That's silly.
Even if your argument had merit there are enough holes and negligence to show that you didn't spend very much time or take very much care in constructing it.