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LuckyKobold

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Re: Temples!
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2015, 05:41:48 pm »

I feel like religion shouldn't become active until population reaches a certain level or the fortress has been going on for a few years.  It just seems like it could make it incredibly confusing to start out to an already incredibly confused player.

Yes, Unless its in a Monastery Scenario or if you've edited it out in Advanced World Gen.

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« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2015, 06:55:01 pm »

I feel like religion shouldn't become active until population reaches a certain level or the fortress has been going on for a few years.  It just seems like it could make it incredibly confusing to start out to an already incredibly confused player.
Building a temple should just act as a happiness bonus. Not something necessary, but still something most people will want later in the game.
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Naryar

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« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2015, 07:18:26 pm »

Considering how temples will be apparently very simple in the next version, it looks like you'll be able to designate just a bit of random place to be a temple and dwarves will go to it and pray inside it and gain happy thoughts. No need to actually build something, just designate whatever.

Hell I'm sure a refuse stockpile would work. (Would probably be a bad idea if there is miasma/sentient corpses in it, but it would work, and even maybe fitting for a temple to a death god)

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« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2015, 10:00:37 pm »

If I get a death God in a pantheon I am so going to make the temple for it be connected to the catacombs. Maybe even coffins in the main room.
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Re: Temples!
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2015, 10:40:13 pm »

I shall make a monastery dedicated to booze.

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« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2015, 05:55:47 am »

If curses for desecrating temples become a thing there should be whole classes of awful or pointless curses.

You dare desecrate my temple?  Now your right foot is made of cheese!

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« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2015, 07:56:37 am »

If curses for desecrating temples become a thing there should be whole classes of awful or pointless curses.

You dare desecrate my temple?  Now your right foot is made of cheese!
That's a blessing if you're a dwarf.
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Re: Temples!
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2015, 08:02:26 am »

I know I will build fitting temples to gods in the next version.

Fire god temples (different from volcano god temples) and victory god temples will be a bit hard, though. How do you actually make a temple dedicated to the concept of victory in Dwarf Fortress, of all games ? I can skewer goblins on pikes but this looks more like a war god temple than a victory god temple.

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Re: Temples!
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2015, 09:47:46 am »

Goblinite statues and an offering of troll fur clothing. You need to wash the clothes first, of course. Otherwise they'll seem more like an offering to Armok.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2015, 09:49:23 am by Dwarf4Explosives »
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« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2015, 11:36:49 am »

Well a volcano God could be suspended over a volcano...with waterfalls of magma being pumped up to the roof so it falls besides the intrance...
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« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2015, 01:25:21 pm »

How do you actually make a temple dedicated to the concept of victory

This would be the traditional style:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Athena_Nike

There are also some other ideas out there: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chhatarpur_Temple

http://www.katyayanipeeth.org.in/The_Temple.html

http://www.shreekatyayani.org/gallery/?album=all&gallery=4

But I might personally go with something inspired by Albert Speer's design (which in turn was a case of one-upmanship over the French design... Which in turn was not its self original):

http://arno.breker.free.fr/arc_de_triomphe01w.htm


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« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2015, 04:48:49 pm »

How do you actually make a temple dedicated to the concept of victory in Dwarf Fortress, of all games ?

Statues of fights/sieges in which your dwarves have been victorious and crafts/totems/whatevers made of megabeast bones
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« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2015, 04:52:43 pm »

If curses for desecrating temples become a thing there should be whole classes of awful or pointless curses.

Yes, this exact attitude is why we can't have nice things.

"You... you're now a were... a were... oh hell, chinchilla, something, I don't care!  And you, there in the back!  You're an iguana!  I see you too Melbil... you're now a WERE-THRIPS!"
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« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2015, 07:35:26 pm »

Desecrate my temple, and you'll be turned into a were-plump helmet man. Have fun in the dining hall.

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« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2015, 07:37:57 pm »

Well, yes, Athena Nike was Athena victorious, but yeah. They're temples. And you can't see how they are temples dedicated to the concept of victory.

I honestly think a victory temple should be simply an old fortress. After all, you have vanquished many goblins and the fortress has not fallen...

Old battlefields as temples should work as well, but I prefer my old battlefields to be temples to war and valor, instead of victory. (They could be all three though. )

 After all, a battlefield sees one winning side and one losing side, so why should it be a temple to victory ? It could be a temple to defeat as well. Or both-

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I see you too Melbil... you're now a WERE-THRIPS!"

Worst werebeast ever.

Are they crazed for plant matter instead of blood and flesh and therefore attack your plant stockpiles ? And then your plump helmets turn into werethrips one lunar month later?

...Admittedly that's pretty damn cool. Self-replicating werebeast plant-eater nanobots.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2015, 07:40:54 pm by Naryar »
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