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[umiman]

I’ve got Throgg with an all-monster army right now. Has anyone else tried it? I’ve got Fimir as my front line, Trolls to shock, a Feral Manticore as an aerial harasser, two mammoths, and ice wolves. It’s pretty great, but I do lack ranged and have nothing to assault walls with in siege battles.

Ranged is a silly little elven strategy.

Real manly monsters simply walk forward and kill everything in the way.

[Teneb]

Not Warhammer, but... 3 Kingdoms Cao-Cao trailer, in-engine.

[Il Palazzo]

Not Warhammer, but... 3 Kingdoms Cao-Cao trailer, in-engine.

This is obviously all wrong. Cao Cao is not shown to be the Gendo Ikari he was, an there is no mention of the angelic rose-cheeked Liu Bei-sempai and his band of bishounen.

[umiman]

Not Warhammer, but... 3 Kingdoms Cao-Cao trailer, in-engine.

This is obviously all wrong. Cao Cao is not shown to be the Gendo Ikari he was, an there is no mention of the angelic rose-cheeked Liu Bei-sempai and his band of bishounen.

Isn't that Liu Bei at the end?

Anyway, for people wondering how Dynasty Warriors CA will get, their Q&A explains:

A big difference is how these iconic heroes behave on the battlefield. By default, we adhere to the romanticised view: these characters can hold their own against hundreds of rank-and-file warriors. They’ll appear as single character units and fight like the heroes from Luo Guanzhong’s epic. In Classic Mode, they’ll appear in battle the way you might expect a classic Total War general to do: they’re only human, and will march into battle at the centre of a bodyguard unit.

In short: by default, characters in Total War: THREE KINGDOMS take centre stage in battle, helping to turn the tide with their flamboyant Wushu martial arts or strategic prowess. But Classic Mode focuses more on historical troop manoeuvres, where victory is defined by superior army composition and battle tactics.

I think that's a great choice. They couldn't have done that better.

Incidentally, they also mentioned one of their advisors is the foremost expert on the period, Rafe De Crespigny. Good stuff. I have high hopes.

[Il Palazzo]

Isn't that Liu Bei at the end?

Do you see an angelic halo over his head? Do the Cherubs sing hallelujah? Is a peasant delegation blowing him? Did anyone serve him his wife for dinner?

[umiman]

Isn't that Liu Bei at the end?

Do you see an angelic halo over his head? Do the Cherubs sing hallelujah? Is a peasant delegation blowing him? Did anyone serve him his wife for dinner?

Which wife? The one he abandoned to die (repeatedly), the one he abandoned to die, the one he just generally abandoned, or the incestuous one?

[Il Palazzo]

I meant the wife the random peasant served him when he couldn't find any meat in the house.

[umiman]

I meant the wife the random peasant served him when he couldn't find any meat in the house.

I thought you were joking, but wtf...

[Il Palazzo]

Lovely book! Great for children.

Ahem. Anyway, TW:ROTK, eh? Feels like a step down from Warhammer.
Like you've just seen Lord of the Rings, and then the trailers go: From the visionary director of LoTR - 'Back to the mundane shit: No dragons!'

TW: WH40K would be more like it.

[A Thing]

Not Warhammer, but... 3 Kingdoms Cao-Cao trailer, in-engine.

0/10 no Cao Cao slaughtering a village that took him as a guest.

Personally, my favorite "wat?" moment from RTK was when one of the descendants (relatives?) of Liu Bei decides it would be better to kill himself and his wife and children to protect his honor instead of surrendering to Wei. This being after pretty much everyone else in Shu had done so.

[Mech#4]

The next patch is in the works, a beta has been put up on Steam as well as a list of things we can expect to be fixed.

Spoiler: Copied from Blog Post (click to show/hide)

The Queen & The Crone Public Beta patch is now live!

This update aims to deal with some of the issues you’ve been having since The Queen & The Crone’s release – make sure to keep us posted if you happen to encounter any more.

If you’d like to opt into the The Queen & The Crone Public Beta, simply follow these steps:

    Restart Steam
    Find Total War: WARHAMMER II in your Steam library
    Right click Total War: WARHAMMER II and go to Properties in the drop-down menu
    In the Properties window, select the Betas tab
    In the drop-down menu under Select the beta you would like to opt into: select public_beta
    Total War: WARHAMMER II will then update to build 7312.1390392

Patch Notes

    Rebalanced Crone Hellebron’s Cursed Blade ability by removing the phase recharge and changing the phase to deal up to 144 to a single target when the phase is applied. The phase can be reapplied every ten seconds.
    Rogue armies will now spawn correctly in campaigns.
    Arkhan’s Legion of Death skill will now add factionwide buffs to Fell Bats, Crypt Ghouls, Dire Wolves and Hex Wraiths.
    Bone Giant has had the undead trait removed and the construct trait added as well as +10 Leadership.
    Bretonnian starting armies have been changed back to what they were prior to The Queen and the Crone update.
    Tyrion’s -1 to recruitment time will now apply to Sisters of Avelorn and Shadow Warriors.
    Firebark Elders (Tree Kin) Regiment of Renown unit now correctly has its Wildfire Aura ability.
    Summoners of Rage (Dragon Ogres) Regiment of Renown unit now correctly has its Chain Lightning ability.
    Great Mortis Delta province is now correctly part of the Geomantic Web.
    Fixed a softlock that would occur for Crone Hellebron when the Amulet of Dark Fire quest would trigger when Shrine of Khaine had been razed.
    Sword of Khaine will no longer display an Empire flag after loading a save game from before The Queen and the Crone update when Shrine of Khaine has been razed.
    Diplomacy Greetings for Dark Elf factions will now use the correct VO actors.
    Sisters of Slaughter and Sisters of Avelorn will no longer use male conversational VO in battles.
    Builds in localised languages will now trigger UI click sounds on the technology tree, skill tree and crafting screens.
    Various localisation issues fixed across multiple languages.

The major things amongst this is Crone Hellebron's ability from her swords working as it should, as well as rogue armies spawning during campaigns correctly.



Also, friggin Surtha Ek.

[umiman]

PC gamer has an article up. To spare people from having to subject themselves to the ad barrage, I'll paste some relevant quotes.

There are some nice bullshots on there though.

When you go into most battles, you'll be able to choose up to three hero units to bring with you. Because heroes have varying recruitment options, who you choose will determine what kind of units you'll be able to bring to a given battle. You won't be able to pair any generals without consequence though. Three Kingdoms introduces heavier social dynamics between the lead characters. Generals will all have a taste or distaste for the others in their retinue that can affect how they perform in battle. You'll even need to worry about how they feel about themselves, according to Mann.

"We have this satisfaction mechanic which is about how a character feels about where they are in life, like their lot within your faction or an enemy faction, and that's something that's driven by all of these relationships and events that occur in every game."

Mann explains:"With Total War: Three Kingdoms, we're really pushing the concept of characters, and actually certain characters will be bringing these formations in to get them enabled for the rest of your army. So by default your army potentially can't form a diamond formation with its calvary. But by bringing a high-level strategist in with you, they're actually able to give you those formations, so it's kind of something you progress into as you're playing through the game."

Besides character appearance, Mann shed some more light on some more differences between the two modes. "Things like random events, certain characters, certain historical events won't be occurring within the [classic] mode because they're more fictional and part of the actual Romance text."

Historically, agents would pile up over time and required way too much micromanagement, so a change has long been overdue. Gaspar tells me not to worry, but that it's too early to talk details. "It's very exciting. It's going to be very surprising."

[Teneb]

Sounds nice.

Also depressed generals will be a thing, going off those quotes.

(Stuff like adblock and ghostery make PCGamer far more bearable)

[umiman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQX6qBiCu9E

Whoa...

Insults...

Duels...

Super sexy UI...

Shitty Gwailo pronunciations of our names...

Whoa...

I desperately hope there is Chinese audio though.

But goddamn. Fucking duels. Oh my god.

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Incidentally, I like that thing on the bottom left that tells you stuff about the battle.

I am curious if they will have flooding mechanics though (or fire). Both were used heavily in Three Kingdoms. For example, here in Xiapi, Cao Cao defeated Lu Bu by drowning his forces.

A very historically accurate representation of the siege: https://youtu.be/uBBVPSsFCUc?t=35s

[MCreeper]

It's just me, or 8 freaking trebuchets just punched straight trough few meters thick stone wall and promptly collapsed it in one volley? That's the whole new level of "walls are useless".