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[Urist McScoopbeard]

A slayer king? Don't slayers really, really, really want to die in battle?

Is this guy so invincible he managed to live long enough to be a king?

*sigh* Here.

Brush up on your lore, nerds!!!

[Teneb]

Other factions have at least two lords.
Empire:                                                                          Orcs and Goblins:
Emperor Karl Franz                                                          Grimgor Ironhide
Balthazar Gelt Supreme Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic   Wurrzag da Great Green Prophet (I think)

Dwarves:                                                                        Vampire Counts:
High King Thorgrim Grudgebearer                                     Mannfred von Carstein
Ungrim Ironfist the Slayer King                                         Not announced yet.

The lord choices are tending to be one melee focused lord and one more magic focused lord. Mannfred is more of a mage from what I know of him.

It might also be that the 4 base factions will also have a third, unannounced leader too.

[Mech#4]

Yah. I have seen mention, as well as some concept art, for Azhag the Slaughterer suggesting a third lord for the Greenskins at least.

[sambojin]

Yes, gaming in Australia sometimes blows. What happened to our $1.05 exchange rate? Remember, what's good for the "economy" often sucks arse for the consumer. Which is what a good economy is meant to support (although the rich get richer regardless. It's just way easier to do so sometimes). Then again, $60 releases were still often $70-80AUD back then, but they release them for a cheaper price in Russia, so it's all a pretty wonky money grab in any case. First world problems, huh?

quotey thing:

Spoiler: Edit: For completion sake, here is a list of all the units that will be in the Chaos faction: (click to show/hide)

Legendary Lords:

 Archaon the Everchosen – Melee/Caster (Lore of Fire) (Race Leader)
 Prince Sigvald – Melee
 Kholek Suneater – Melee

 Lords:

 Chaos Sorcerer Lord – Caster (Lore of Death, Metal or Fire)
 Chaos Lord – Melee

 Heroes:

 Chaos Sorcerer – Caster (Lore of Death, Metal or Fire)
 Exalted Hero – Melee

 Mounts:

 Dorghar, Archaon’s War Horse (Archaon only)
 Gorebeast Chariot
 Manticore
 Chaos Dragon
 Chaos Steed
 Chaos Chariot
 Barded Chaos Steed

 Melee Infanty:

 Chaos Marauders
 Chaos Marauders (Great Weapons)
 Chaos Warriors
 Chaos Warriors (Great Weapons)
 Chaos Warriors (Halberds)
 Chosen
 Chosen (Great Weapons)
 Chosen (Halberds)
 Forsaken

 Melee Monstrous Infantry:

 Dragon Ogres
 Chaos Spawn
 Chaos Trolls
 Chaos Trolls (Armoured)

 Melee War Beasts:

 Chaos Warhounds
 Chaos Warhounds (Poison)

 Melee Monsters:

 Dragon Ogre ****goth
 Chaos Giant

 Melee Cavalry:

 Chaos Knights
 Chaos Knights (Lances)

 Missile Cavalry:

 Marauder Horsemen
 Marauder Horsemen (Throwing Axes)

 Vehicles:

 Chaos Chariot
 Gorebeast Chariot

 Artillery:

 Hellcannon

That looks pretty impressive for a DLC. No doubt there'll be other mechanics, etc to go along with the unit list. This is chaos too. So a lot of those units come in five different flavours due to marks/gods. That's a hell of a lot of unit styles. It's a pity Vardek Crom wasn't on the Lords list, but that's just personal preference.

I'll probably get this if they include "The Dreaded Wo" on a map somewhere (coolest name for any non-greenskin tribe, ever).

I guess I probably will be a paying customer of this particular brothel.

[puke]

This is chaos too. So a lot of those units come in five different flavours due to marks/gods.

They might just do the "Chaos Undivided" thing.

[Mech#4]

In developing news, people are not exactly happy over the pre-order DLC situation with the official video by Creative Assembly currently sitting at 13,682 dislikes to 2,352 likes. It will be interesting to see whether the situation will change Creative Assembly's plans. Myself, I have no problem waiting for a year or two and buying the game on sale with all released DLC included. Or buying the game after release if it works well and waiting for a DLC pack to go on sale.

[Neonivek]

In developing news, people are not exactly happy over the pre-order DLC situation with the official video by Creative Assembly currently sitting at 13,682 dislikes to 2,352 likes. It will be interesting to see whether the situation will change Creative Assembly's plans. Myself, I have no problem waiting for a year or two and buying the game on sale with all released DLC included. Or buying the game after release if it works well and waiting for a DLC pack to go on sale.

I doubt people are sick and tired ENOUGH. EA has been ripping people off for years and they haven't paid for it at all beyond being all but labeled EVIL.

[Mech#4]

In developing news, people are not exactly happy over the pre-order DLC situation with the official video by Creative Assembly currently sitting at 13,682 dislikes to 2,352 likes. It will be interesting to see whether the situation will change Creative Assembly's plans. Myself, I have no problem waiting for a year or two and buying the game on sale with all released DLC included. Or buying the game after release if it works well and waiting for a DLC pack to go on sale.

I doubt people are sick and tired ENOUGH. EA has been ripping people off for years and they haven't paid for it at all beyond being all but labeled EVIL.

I don't think it need be instantaneous. If a few people get dismayed every time, the effects will be felt several years from now. I look at the list of recent games on Steam and none of them are from Electronic Arts. Mostly due to them only having their games on Origin but the last game I bought from EA was "Mass Effect 2".

[Astral]

Stuff like that is why I only very rarely pre-order. The practice is silly to begin with; why would I pay ahead of time for something that I'm going to get down the line, with no evidence other than over hyped trailers that it's going to be worth what I paid for, and (depending on the platform) little chance of getting a refund if it doesn't meet my expectations?

Added to the fact that in some cases, it may never even release in a viable state, and with digital distribution platforms making distribution a trivial affair, there's very little reason to spend $50-60 for something that I wouldn't get for 6 months.

I'd personally wait for the price to drop, for the bugs to get ironed out, and (preferably) hope for mods to come and clean up what the developers can't for the purpose of selling as many copies as possible, if I don't make those changes myself.

That's just my two cents on it. Time to go play some Shogun Total War, or maybe the Zelda Total War mod. I was tempted by this at first, but seeing they're locking what's basically a core race as day one DLC really put me off the idea. More a fan of the 40k setting anyway.

[sambojin]

Well, yeah. Never pre-order anything. Ever.

You'd have to be fucking idiot. It's not like there's a discount. There's discounts later though. And if there's a "pre-order" only bonus, it means it's a crap-box/unsupported game without decent publisher/company backing anyway in the long term, but was such an "edge product" that they needed cash upfront to continue to "make a good game". Pre-order content walls are bullshit. They just sold you hopes and dreams (those hopes and dreams include "Wow. I hope I get money out of people before we even have a viable product.")

If it's good DLC, or stuff you like, then cool. Buy it. But never pre-order a game for DLC. That's stupid.

Kickstarter, for the right games, yeah. That I can understand. But pre-order is bullshit.

Never pre-order anything. Unless you're a fucken idiot. You can buy the DLC later if the game is any good.

[Neonivek]

It's not like there's a discount.

It actually is usually the opposite. It is marked up and a few weeks later BOOM! ten dollars off forever.

[sambojin]

Yep.

I plan on buying Total War: Warhammer. And the Chaos DLC (even if zero-day DLC is a shitty practice).

But pre-order? Hah!

I'll see what the game is like first. There's people who's job it is to tell me their views on it.

I'm not paying before then. We all know how Rome 2 was.

[Astral]

I don't. I'm still waiting for a good sale, in the 80% range, after hearing how bad it was second hand.

It's amazing that they've jacked the price back up to $60 for a two year old game though.

[Majestic7]

Interestingly enough they haven't released any kind of "all DLC included"-package for their most recent games, even though Total War Warhamster is around the corner. I wonder if the DLC sell separately well enough that they see no point in such?

I like Total War franchise but this DLC whoring is starting to turn me off regarding them. I wish there was a competitor, but they are pretty much the only one on the field in their specific niche. (Strategic campaign + tactical battles) 

[Antioch]

To be honest the entire franchise has been pretty stagnant for years. Especially in providing a challenging campaign map and AI. Only Shogun 2 had a challenging campaign. Rome 2 just relied on a "hur dur you expanded too much now half your empire defects" mechanic.

Battle and campaign AI basically hasn't improved since Rome 1.