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[Teneb]

The current speculation is that either Chaos Dwarves or Ogre Kingdoms will be the pre-order bonus - playable in part 2 before release. Like they did with Norsca. I'd like that.

CA has said outright that the pre-order bonus is for game 3 only.

[Jopax]

Have they? Where?

The FAQ merely states it's gonna be a Race Pack, not that it's exclusive to game 3 at launch (doesn't say you'll be able to play it in game 2 either but still)

Biggest indication of it being either the Chaos Dwarves or maybe the Ogres is the recent changes to the ME map, while it's still shrouded in fog they most certainly added a bunch more land to the east of the worlds edge mountains. So it would make sense for it to be the CD I guess since the Ogres are a bit further east than that, they'd make more sense after the fact since they'd be facing both Cathay and Dwarves in that case, instead of having an awkward empty space to their west if they come before the Dwarves.

Also on the note of the last lord pack for WH2, LoTW had raised a good point in that it might be Neferata considering again the recent changes to the southern parts of the ME map. No idea who could be her counterpart in terms of the other races/lords tho.  She could be a freelc lord tho, that would take care of that problem I guess.

[Teneb]

Have they? Where?

The FAQ merely states it's gonna be a Race Pack, not that it's exclusive to game 3 at launch (doesn't say you'll be able to play it in game 2 either but still)

Biggest indication of it being either the Chaos Dwarves or maybe the Ogres is the recent changes to the ME map, while it's still shrouded in fog they most certainly added a bunch more land to the east of the worlds edge mountains. So it would make sense for it to be the CD I guess since the Ogres are a bit further east than that, they'd make more sense after the fact since they'd be facing both Cathay and Dwarves in that case, instead of having an awkward empty space to their west if they come before the Dwarves.

Also on the note of the last lord pack for WH2, LoTW had raised a good point in that it might be Neferata considering again the recent changes to the southern parts of the ME map. No idea who could be her counterpart in terms of the other races/lords tho.  She could be a freelc lord tho, that would take care of that problem I guess.

Beastmen really need this last DLC. They're in a horrible place.

Also from the steam store page:

Pre-purchase to get an additional free Race Pack for Total War: WARHAMMER III.

Says specifically Warhammer 3

[nenjin]

I will not be surprised, despite all the quality memes, if they just skip over the Beastmen entirely.

[Jopax]

I didn't get WH2 on release/preorder so I can't confirm this, but did the Norsca have the same blurb? I think it might just be poorly worded and it probably will be playable in the current ME map if not the Vortex one. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Persus13]

They've also said in the past that they don't plan on adding any more new faction dlcs to WH2. Unless they say its a pack for 2 I wouldn't count on it.

Also, while Norsca being the preorder bonus for 2 got them a lot of goodwill, let's not forget that actually getting Norsca into WH2 ran into some coding hurdles they didn't expect, which led to Norsca not actually being in WH2 for almost a year. So after that experience I wouldn't hold your breath for a WH2 and 3 race pack.

[Teneb]

I didn't get WH2 on release/preorder so I can't confirm this, but did the Norsca have the same blurb? I think it might just be poorly worded and it probably will be playable in the current ME map if not the Vortex one. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Norsca was explicitly said "pre-order and play norsca on WH1!". I think they are avoiding this situation because their spaghetti code broke norsca and ME itself when WH2 came out.

[micelus]

Tentative speculation: Belakor is a secret LL/faction ala the skaven prior to wh2's release and may/may not just be WoC but with more stuff. The pre-order race is ogres. Chorfs will be replaced by a greenskin or (Hashur forbids) a dwarf faction at launch.

My initial speculation was that Belakor/Chaos Undivided would be the pre-order faction because a)the stinger on the steam page b) if you're going to have monogods, might as well throw in a chaos undivided as well. However, it was pointed out in a speculation video that not having ogres would leave a lot of land inhabited by placeholders. That is, unless we get a Bretonnia situation wherein we get an unfinished faction instead.

I personally don't think Nagash is what is being hinted to on the steam page because when has Nagash really needed a champion? If it was anyone, its the Liche-King Arkhan. Belakor's shtick is that he needs a champion to do anything he wants to do. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Belakor bodysnatched/shapeshifted into the advisor.

I will not be surprised, despite all the quality memes, if they just skip over the Beastmen entirely.

i'd honestly be fine with a combined beastman/woc faction at this point

[sambojin]

Could be Oghla Khan and his wolfriders as a greenskin faction. That way no-one minds of they don't get it, but those that do will have some fun. Hope we get pumpwagons too.

[Persus13]

If you get emails from Total War, they just announced Rakarth the Beastlord as a free Dark Elf Legendary Lord if you have Total War Access, starting the 18th of March.

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/m49k9m/rakarth_the_beast_master_as_flc/

[Mech#4]

News on Warhammer 3: A gameplay trailer was released showcasing Kislev vs Daemons of Khorne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcYnYdmrZMI

One of the big new things shown in the video is a new battle type, survival battles. Fighting against waves of enemy forces, Kislev has to take objective flags and defeat a greater deamon of Khorne. This battle mode will also have constructable battlements, towers as well as the ability to call in reinforcements.

Shown is also the ability to buff units during a battle using the winds of magic (seperate from spell lores) and being able to upgrade units during a battle.

We also get to see some of the units of Kislev and Daemons of Khorne with Winged Lancers, Streltsi, Bear Cavalry fighting Bloodletters, Bloodcrushers, Khorne Beserkers, Skull Cannon of Khorne and an Exalted Bloodthirster.

[Persus13]

Looks like what possibly will be the last Lord Pack for TWWII just got announced for July, and it seems like its the long-awaited Beastman rework. Its called the Silence and the Fury and it adds the Doombull Taurox as a Legendary Lord for the Beastman against Oxyotl as a Legendary Lord for the Lizardman.

Teaser Trailer
Steam Page

[nenjin]

Finally, Khazrak can stop writing emails and Morghur can finally rest in peace.

[Lidku]

So I see currently on Steam that Warhammer 2 is on sale right about now. I might consider getting it, but I've heard some disturbing news about it; Is it true that if you don't own the first Warhammer, that somethings are inexplicably locked out for you in Warhammer 2? If that's the case, it's essentially a deal broker for me and it seems like a malicious business practice. Though I hope that it isn't right at all, and I've just heard some random bad stuff about Warhammer 2 that may have been out of context.

[scriver]

Buying Warhammer 2 gives you completely different playable factions than the first game. By default, WH2 comes with two kinds of campaigns - the "main" Eye of the Vortex campaign for the WH2 factions, and the "Mortal Empires" campaign which features all the factions of both WH1 and 2. But you need to own WH1 to be able to play as factions from it.