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[A Thing]

I'm actually really curious how they'll do it. It's easy to say they'll make it like Warhammer where heroes and generals are superunits, but what about things like... who leads an army? Who is a bodyguard? Most characters did both. Can we have multiple generals in a single stack like before or are we doing 1 general per stack like the modern games? Can officers break away and do their own thing? How will the game handle stuff like Lu Bu or Liu Bei who just betray everyone and do their own shit constantly? Can you recruit officers from enemy armies?

I'm sorta wondering that instead of states that we might be playing characters/dynasties, ala CK2. Though I'm not entirely sure how you would handle effectively separate "states" within a state in Total War. Maybe a system like the HRE in Europa Universalis?

[Mech#4]

Though already gathered from the screenshots released, the start locations of the Tomb Kings factions have been announced along with a map image to show the various Tomb King factions that'll be featured.

Note: On the map, Khemri has the wrong icon in the faction list. It shows a golden scorpion when they actually have a bird. The proper icon is shown on the map itself.

Also, it seems like one of the Vampire Count factions in the area has been removed, with only the Necrach Brotherhood remaining while the Strigos Empire no longer having a place. Not a major thing really. As an aside it would be neat if they developed them into a full Mourkain Empire faction.

[Teneb]

Though already gathered from the screenshots released, the start locations of the Tomb Kings factions have been announced along with a map image to show the various Tomb King factions that'll be featured.

Note: On the map, Khemri has the wrong icon in the faction list. It shows a golden scorpion when they actually have a bird. The proper icon is shown on the map itself.

Also, it seems like one of the Vampire Count factions in the area has been removed, with only the Necrach Brotherhood remaining while the Strigos Empire no longer having a place. Not a major thing really. As an aside it would be neat if they developed them into a full Mourkain Empire faction.

The strigoi are usually in the southwestern Dark Lands anyway, so they may end up returning.

[umiman]

Man, the Southlands are going to be an apex of fighting now.

[umiman]

Doublepost!

So I kinda did a Hitler in my Lizardman VH campaign.

I managed to take most of the Southlands except for a rabble of random 1-province states in the NW. Humans, Bretonnians, Dwarfs, etc. We were allies for a very long time but they were kinda getting in the way now.

So I figured, I'll take the reliability hit and just war them and unify the Southlands.

Big fucking mistake.

The next turn basically the entire world save the Dark Elves declare war on me. So all the Dwarves, Elves, Humans, other Lizardmen, even Mazdamundi fucking come for me.

All my colonial holdings were basically wiped out. Now I'm desperately trying to hold the Southlands against a neverending horde of everything (except Dark Elves). I have 6 armies but I can't defend the entirety of Africa so enemies keep managing to make beachheads here and there.

Fun times.

[Tack]

First off: Ha to above. Saw it, loved it. Good luck.

Meanwhile, I started a Mors mortal realms game.
Keep on forgetting that the very first Ruin spell is basically the Saurusfucker.
Bunch 'em up, knock 'em down. Rinse repeat. It's actually a little too powerful for the price, IMO.

[umiman]

Ooh yeah, Skaven have really really brutal spells. And they have so many of them too.

[Mech#4]

The unit roster has been put up for the Tomb Kings, covering the basic units and their variations, the Legions of Legend (units created through spending canoptic jar resource) and the Regiments of Renown.
Note: The army list doesn't list the basae Tomb King lords, though here's the information of them from the Steam page:
Tomb King
Tomb Kings are the principle Lords which lead the armies of Nehekhara. A number will appear as standard in the recruitment pool, but unique, named Tomb Kings – famous rulers from the six dynasties of Nehekharan history – may be resurrected via the Dynasties panel, at which point they enter your Lords recruitment pool. Tomb kings may unlock the Skeletal Steed, Skeleton Chariot, and Khemrian Warsphinx as mounts.

Spoiler: Tomb Kings Army Roster (click to show/hide)

TOMB KINGS

The Tomb Kings, known as the Priest Kings in their former lives are the undying rulers of Nehekhara, an ancient Human civilization that formed a great and powerful empire some two thousand five hundred years before the birth of Sigmar Heldenhammer and the founding of the Empire of Man. Out of all the unliving creatures that would claim dominion and royalty over the dead, only the Tomb Kings could truly claim such masterful and undisputed sovereignty, they who once ruled a mighty and far-flung Empire during a time when the rest of Mankind were little more than savage barbarians.

Long ago, during an ancient and forgotten age, the civilization of Nehekhara stood as the shining beacon of civilization and Human achievement; a golden age where its cities shone with a majestic splendor, its buildings crafted from magnificent marble and limestone, its armies conquering entire kindgoms from the face of the earth and their mighty rulers reigning as living Gods amongst Man. But this great realm was razed millennia ago through acts of great treachery and powerful sorcery. The living of the land had long ago perished in a single, mournful night, and in their absence, the dead stirred from their graves and claimed the land anew.

LEGENDARY LORDS

Players choosing the Tomb Kings will be able to select from the following Legendary Lords with which to lead their Grand Campaign.

SETTRA THE IMPERISHABLE

The greatest living Tomb King and founder of the Mortuary Cult. In life he ruled all of Nehekhara through his iron will, and in undeath he continues that tradition. Though an arrogant, cruel tyrant, under his 150 years of leadership Nehekhara entered a golden age. Settra desires to restore Nehekhara to its former glory and to expand his realm as he did in life- through conquest. Settra fights atop the golden Chariot of the Gods and wields the Blessed Blade of Ptra, and his skill at arms and aura of command makes him a terrifying foe for any enemy to face.

HIGH QUEEN KHALIDA

Slain by her own cousin Neferata the first vampire and reborn as a Tomb Queen, Khalida vowed not to return to rest until she rids the entire world of the hated vampires. Blessed by the goddess Asaph, Khalida moves with serpent like speed and no poison can harm her.

ARKHAN THE BLACK

Nagash’s most trusted follower and a powerful necromancer in his own right. Arkhan searches for a means to resurrect his master, travelling the world to retrieve his master’s lost heirlooms. He has already recovered the Staff of Nagash and the Liber Mortis (one of the dreaded nine black tomes of Nagash). Until the time Arkhan can gather the rest of his master’s lost artifacts and begin the spell to return Nagash, he fights for any Tomb King who can afford his price.

GRAND HIEROPHANT KHATEP

The most powerful Liche Priest of the Mortuary Cult, banished by Settra until he discovers a way to grant true immortality and restore Nehekhara to its former glory. Khatep roams the deserts searching for the answers while appearing seemingly from nowhere every now and again to aid the armies of the Tomb Kings.

BASE ROSTER –
Melee Legendary Lord    Settra
   Mounts: Skeletal Steed, Chariot of the Gods, Warsphinx
   
Caster Legendary Lord    High Queen Khalida
   Mounts: Skeleton Chariot, Necroserpent
   
Caster Legendary Lord    Arkhan the Black
   Mounts: Skeletal Steed, Skeleton Chariot
   
Caster Legendary Lord    Grand Hierophant Khatep
   Mounts: Skeletal Steed, Skeleton Chariot, Casket of Souls
   
Melee Hero    Tomb Prince
   Mounts: Skeletal Steed, Skeleton Chariot
   
Melee Hero    Necrotect
   Mounts: Skeletal Chariot
   
Caster Hero    Liche Priest
   Mounts: Skeletal Steed
   

Melee Infantry    Skeleton Warriors
Melee Infantry    Skeleton Spearmen
Melee Infantry    Nehekhara Warriors
Melee Infantry    Tomb Guard
Melee Infantry    Tomb Guard (Halberd)
   
Missile Infantry    Skeleton Archers
   
Spear Cavalry    Skeleton Horsemen
Melee Cavalry    Nehekhara Horsemen
   
Chariot    Skeleton Chariots
   
Missile Cavalry    Skeleton Horse Archers
   
Missile Chariot    Skeleton Archer Chariots
   
Flying War Beasts    Carrion
   
Monstrous Infantry    Ushabti
   
Monstrous Missile Infantry    Ushabti (Great Bows)
   
Monstrous Infantry    Sepulchral Stalkers
   
Monstrous Cavalry    Necropolis Knights
   
Monstrous Cavalry    Necropolis Knights (Halberds)
   
Monster    Tomb Scorpion
   
Monster    Khemrian Warsphinx
   
Monster    Necrosphinx
   
Magical Monster    Hierotitan
   
Catapult    Screaming Skull Catapult
   
Magical Artillery    Casket of Souls

LEGIONS OF LEGEND (Campaign only and obtained via the Mortuary Cult)
Usirian’s Legion of the Netherworld    Ethereal Nehekhara Warriors with improved damage
   
Storm Riders of Khsar    Faster Nehekhara Horsemen with improved charge bonus, health and armour
   
The Flock of Djaf    Faster & Larger Carrion with Death From Above ability
   
Venom Knights of Asaph    Larger Necropolis Knights with more health, charge bonus and armour

REGIMENTS OF RENOWN (Campaign and Multiplayer and obtained through the Regiments of Renown recruitment panel)
King Nekhesh’s Scorpion Legion    Skeleton Spearmen with poison attacks and medium armour
   
The Khepra Guard    Dual wielding tomb guards with regeneration
   
Blessed Legion of Phakth    Skeleton Archers with longer range, medium armour and armour sundering projectiles
   
Chosen of the Gods    Ushabti (Great Bows) with ‘Shieldbreaker’ contact effect and shrapnel projectiles
   
Eyes of the Desert    Sepulchral Stalkers with Stalk ability
   
The Sphinx of Usekph    Necrosphinx with Magical and Fire attacks and more health

There's also a video showing several turns of a head-to-head campaign between Settra the Imperishable and Arkhan the Black. It shows some of the Tomb Kings rite abilities like using a special Necrotect to establish a level 3 settlement from the get go.

[umiman]

I found the cooler part about that Necrotect ability was that you don't have to sacrifice half an army to create a level 1 settlement. Also means you don't have to reroute them to colonize something out of the way too. Very useful rite.

Certainly more useful than half of the Lizardmen ones.

Jesus Christ did Slann mages get the nerf bat in this game. They're so bad. No idea why you need to build so much shit AND do a rite to get something so crappy.

[Tack]

Meanwhile, I started a Mors mortal realms game.

*slaps forehead* Gosh darn what a silly mistake. Mortal empires!
I forgot that everyone has Regiments of Renown. Everyone except me and my Warhammer 2 buddies.
Good thing that they can replenish those stacks WAY before the ten-turn timer which was supposed to have been patched in.

I am livid.

[umiman]

My accidental-Hitler game is going absolutely awful.

In 50 turns since that previous post I accomplished absolutely nothing. I haven't managed to expand. Haven't manage to defeat anyone. Haven't even progressed a single iota towards the ritual.

Here's a screenshot:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

As you can see, money is tough. I actually managed to break through quite a bit of Southern Lothern and stopped the Elves from completing the final ritual, but then they brought down 7000 angry racist elves to smack me back to Lothern, which I just barely held on to after a really epic siege defense. 2000 lizards vs 7000 elves.

Mazdamundi doesn't really do much but he does send the occasional stack down to invade me when I have absolutely nothing to defend. Itza too, the pieces of shit. It's why that top bit of Lustria has a little razed province. I was hoping I could use it as a buffer zone to prevent the AI from attacking me so much from that direction. Didn't really work. There was one particularly amusing moment when Itza sent two stacks of just Terradons.

The asshole Lizard-loving humans come from there too.

The Dark Elves are basically out of the picture. They got completely smashed by intervention armies, Norsca, rogue armies, and finally Mazdamundi planting his giant lizard dong straight up their bumhole.

The NE is basically a new Border Princes state with three rogue armies calling it home.

The main problem are the fucking Spine of Sotek dwarfs. There's an unlimited number of them. You can't see it in that screenshot, but 4 stacks are sailing across the ocean to invade me. That's AFTER I defeated 2 stacks on that little island in between us and 2 stacks that already made landfall. It never ends. They just keep coming and coming and coming like a tireless horde. What the hell is wrong with these Dwarfs?!

Oh, and my reputation still hasn't improved beyond unreliable. So I can't peace with anyone. Still constant, total war.

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I'm thinking the only way I can get out of this mess is to move as many armies as I can spare into Lustria and completely wipe out the Dwarfs once and for all.

Also one of the Dwarf 1-province nations I originally declared war on is still somehow existing. They managed to colonize some ruins way in the NW of the map where no one else is and I can't get to them to finish them off. Normally I wouldn't care, but as a parting gift they left a single max level thane sitting in the middle of my land constantly assaulting my garrisons.

I imagine a really REALLY angry dwarf on a one man crusade in Araby. I don't actually want to kill him, he's been there so long. Like a national treasure.

[ArchAIngel]

So apparently if you're sitting outside an AI settlement with a stack now, and it gets attacked, you can get drawn into the siege battle.


I now need to figure out how to beat 4 stacks of Varg with a pretty strong Dawi stack, and a shitty Empire garrison helping out.


At least there are technically walls?

[Teneb]

They just keep coming and coming and coming like a tireless horde. What the hell is wrong with these Dwarfs?!

They got to avenge those grudges.

[Mech#4]

The patch notes for the update coming with the Tomb Kings release have been put up.

Headline improvements:
• Rebalanced the Grand and Vortex campaigns to reduce Dwarf supremacy.
• Improved ‘Dropped Orders’/units responsiveness during battles.
• Increased the length of Multiplayer Campaign objectives (head to head and co-op)
• Improved Skaven units in auto-resolve.
• Added a check-box to the army panel in campaign, so when end-turn notifications are disabled, the notifications for the selected army will still be enabled.
• Battle AI is now less inclined to use deep unit formations (e.g. 5 units deep) and will use more varied and wider formations where appropriate.
• Campaign Battle difficulty modifiers are now applied to the AI correctly.
• Battle AI is now less likely to clump when attacking a high Combat Potential unit or Lord, which used to make them easy to kill with ranged units or by flanking the clumped army.
• Improved the Battle AI outflank analyser to check the number of entities currently in the unit, rather than the initial number. This will prevent the Battle AI from attempting to outflank an already engaged unit and surround single entity units under certain conditions.
• Old World Legendary Lords traits and Bretonnia updates, see above for details.


Note: I would usually copy and paste the patch notes here, but they're too extensive and exceed the 40,000 (heh) character limit of the forum. There's a lot of small changes to quests, unit bugs and behavior fixes, building chains in some cities being wrong and so on and so forth. I'll add if I find anything particuarly interesting after I've read it all.


Along with this are some nice changes to Bretonnia, specifically their tech tree which now has several decrees related to the new factions added in Warhammer 2. It also includes new researches that improve their units as well as some new unique buildings to construct in Bretonnian and Empire provinces.

Also, along with the release of the Tomb Kings race, Tretch Craventail will be added for free as a new Skaven lord, starting in Naggaroth.

[Tack]

Really? Clan Rictus?
Not what I would have expected.