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[TempAcc]

Maybe it'll work like how medieval total war did it. When you got the expansion that let you go to other maps, you would acess them by walking your army to the edge of the other map. Both maps would be technically separate, but the campaign encompassed both of them and events took place on the maps at the same time. So it was two or more maps that effectively worked like a larger map.

[Persus13]

That's how Empire total war worked too, although it was a self-contained game.

[Teneb]

That's how Empire total war worked too, although it was a self-contained game.

Empire only allowed transitions in specific spots, while I have no idea about med 1.

[TempAcc]

I know med 2 did it (IIRC), no idea about the first one.

[Teneb]

I know med 2 did it (IIRC), no idea about the first one.

Um. No it didn't. It had a single map, and the expansion added 4 different campaigns with their own maps. They don't interact in any way shape or form.

[TempAcc]

Maybe I'm confusing medieval 2 with empires then? I played both several years ago, I just know that was a thing the total war series did at one point or another.

EDIT: actualy, I was right, you can go to the americas by sailing off the west edge of the map on Med 2.

[Teneb]

Maybe I'm confusing medieval 2 with empires then? I played both several years ago, I just know that was a thing the total war series did at one point or another.

EDIT: actualy, I was right, you can go to the americas by sailing off the west edge of the map on Med 2.

It's not another map, though. It's just a part of the map you can't normally go to until you hit a specific point in the game. It's always there, just covered by fog of war. If you use the console, you can see it rather easily.

[Mech#4]

The Bretonnia patch is out. The changes and fixes are minimal though the major things include a few balance tweaks as well as build tree modifications.

Spoiler: Bretonnia Patch Notes (click to show/hide)

Patch Notes:

The Total War: WARHAMMER multiplayer leaderboards have been reset.
A 5% score penalty will now be applied to users caught drop-hacking from multiplayer battles (disconnecting under suspicious circumstances).
Fix for users becoming unable to save the game, after the last chapter mission is completed on Legendary difficulty.
Fixed a missing building chain in the Grung Zint settlement.
All income types from Farming/Industry bonuses are now being applied correctly to all resource buildings.
Fixed a rare crash when disbanding Heroes on the campaign map.
Fix for Guardians of the Lady skill giving magic resistance instead of missile resistance.
Fix for Gelt's Pegasus unlock level.
Fix for inconsistency between Strigoi and Ghorst spells and the main lore spells.
Chivalry is no longer gained for torturing people in during Quests.
Updated garrison for Couronne and removed wall building chain.
Various text, game guide and localisation fixes.

Balancing Changes:

Questing Knights
- 8 Charge Bonus

Foot Squires
- 10 Leadership
- 6 Charge Bonus

Men-at-Arms
+ 25 Cost

Helman Ghorsts's Vanhel Danse Macabre
-1 Power Cost

Strigoi's Soulblight
+1 Power Cost

As for the maps in previous games. In Medieval 2 when the turns reached a specific number the map would expand to the west, unveiling the East coast of the Americas. In Empire: Total War the map was a mix of continuous and seperate maps where India was on the same map as Europe (though they had seperate minimaps) while the Americas and the smaller trading hubs (Ivory Coast etc) were seperate and you needed to sail a fleet between them via icons on the map edge.

For what they'll do with Warhammer: Total War; I suspect they'll have one continuous map. I wonder whether they'll do something interesting to represent the sea monsters that plague the oceans in Warhammer.

[Tack]

The notes on the next patch have been put up. Focusing mostly on Bretonnia it fixes a few things to do with their campaign and buildings as well as some balancing changes such as the Foot Squires.

Spoiler: Patch Notes (click to show/hide)

Patch Notes:

The Total War: WARHAMMER multiplayer leaderboards have been reset.
A 5% score penalty will now be applied to users caught drop-hacking from multiplayer battles (disconnecting under suspicious circumstances).
Fix for users becoming unable to save the game, after the last chapter mission is completed on Legendary difficulty.
Fixed a missing building chain in the Grung Zint settlement.
All income types from Farming/Industry bonuses are now being applied correctly to all resource buildings.
Fixed a rare crash when disbanding Heroes on the campaign map.
Fix for Guardians of the Lady skill giving magic resistance instead of missile resistance.
Fix for Gelt's Pegasus unlock level.
Fix for inconsistency between Strigoi and Ghorst spells and the main lore spells.
Chivalry is no longer gained for torturing people in during Quests.
Updated garrison for Couronne and removed wall building chain.
Various text, game guide and localisation fixes.

Balancing Changes:

Questing Knights
- 8 Charge Bonus

Foot Squires
- 10 Leadership
- 6 Charge Bonus

Men-at-Arms
+ 25 Cost

Helman Ghorsts's Vanhel Danse Macabre
-1 Power Cost

Strigoi's Soulblight
+1 Power Cost

[Tack]

I thought the maps never 'expanded' and that the Americas were always available but required ocean-going ships

[Mech#4]

The annoucement trailer is up for Warhammer 2: Total War.

Spoiler: Stuff about trailer (click to show/hide)

Video subtext:
Defend your world. Destroy theirs.

Sequel to the award-winning Total War: WARHAMMER, Total War: WARHAMMER II introduces a breathtaking campaign of exploration, expansion and conquest across The New World. As one of four unique Races, players will seek to save or disrupt the Great Vortex and decide the fate of the world.



So it seems like the four factions will be Lizardmen, Dark Elves, High Elves and Skaven.
As for characters, Malakith for the Dark Elves. It might've been Teclis but High Elves look kind of the same to me. The Lizardmen seem to have Kroq'gar (the saurus on the big dinosaur) though as for the Slann, maybe Mazdamundi but I don't think he ever had a unique model.


Edit: There's more information on the Steam page for the game. Apparently the High Elves are led by Prince Tyrion, the Lizardmen by Lord Mazdamundi and Dark Elves by Malakith.

The overall campaign is focused on either stabalizing or disrupting the vortex in Ulthuan. The vortex was created by Caledor Dragontamer and other elven mages to drain magic away from the Warhammer world to inhibit daemonic invasions.

It also mentions how people who own the new game as well as the Old World edition will, soon after launch, be able to combine the maps into one big one for the grand campaign.
No exact release date, just sometime this year.

Interestingly enough the Steam pages mentions, along with Naggaroth, Ulthuan and Lustria, the Southlands as a theatre of war. This would seem to point towards the Tomb Kings as well as possibly Lizardmen located back in the Old World (south of the Badlands).

[Retropunch]

This looks pretty good - I'm happy with the race selection they made. I imagine Tomb Kings will be DLC - wouldn't be surprised if they're Chaos type preorder DLC.

I imagine that they'll see a bit too similar to the Vampire Counts (for non WH fans especially) so it's probably the best way of getting them in - if they go down the construct way with them though it could be interesting enough for a Wood Elf style expansion.

[umiman]

So each of the four factions will have two lords each this time. And all of them will have separate starting positions.

I'm glad Skaven won't be DLC so Tomb Kings or Estalia / Tilea probably will be.

[Mech#4]

Here's an article from Eurogamer. While it doesn't give anymore information than that which is described in the FAQ and on the Steam store page, it does give a bit more detail about how the maps will work together and Creative Assembly's plans for future content and release.

[umiman]

Is naval combat happening?

Only in autoresolve. Warhammer Fantasy Battles is principally a game about land warfare, so that’s where we’re choosing to focus our efforts in terms of full battle simulation. There are some new sea-related campaign features that we will detail in the future.

Welp, so much for that.

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You know I never really was interested in any of this as I don't care for Elves and only minorly care for dinosaurs... but then I remembered Skaven have gatling guns.

I want to mow people down with gatling guns.

It also makes me curious how they'll handle the combined super map. The blog talks about how they have to tweak some things and maybe remove some minor races so turn times aren't excessive but they want to keep it as much a sandbox as possible. The elves generally only have minor enclaves in the old world (though they probably don't at the start) but we all know there may or may not be massive undercities populated with certain rodents under every single capital city.

So if they do do that... does that mean the Empire is going to get even more roflstomped than it does already? Those poor humans.

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Oh, and the whole vortex thing doesn't matter for old worlders according to the same blog.