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[Teneb]

Expansion is out and all, but turns out another DLC got leaked: The White Dwarf

[Tack]

Capped minimum reload time to prevent multiple Master Engineers rewriting the laws of physics and giving ranged units negative reload times.

Those missed opportunities

[Man of Paper]

Well shit, if only I'd known that sooner.

[Teneb]

DLC has been teased. Looks like it'll be a Greenskins vs Dwarfs instead of Wood Elves.

[Tack]

The Gitz and the Grotz.

[Mech#4]

A bit of new hinting at the next DLC pack. Another letter to read and speculate on, though I think I have a pretty good idea from it what to expect.

[Teneb]

Looks like Belegar VS Skarsnik. Going to take a guess at some of the new units: Runelords, Anvil of Doom, and Squigs.

[Mech#4]

I looked up Karak Azul and it came up with King Kazador though I don't know enough about dwarf lore to know which would be more appropriate. It mentions "Thaggoraki" but I think this is just a continuing trend I've seen with Creative Assembly not naming races until they're implemented. King Lunn's hold is relevent to Skarsnik and since it mentions retaking Belegar would be more fitting.

[Tack]

Orks vs Skaven

[Neonivek]

Orks vs Skaven

I swear if Skaven can only take Ork settlements... then I will officially say that whole "only some races can take the settlements of over" really WAS just an excuse 100% without question... Like I already think it is.

[Shadowgandor]

But they released an official mod that removes this limitation on day 1, but I seem to recall this argument having been used before

[Neonivek]

But they released an official mod that removes this limitation on day 1, but I seem to recall this argument having been used before

Yes, I recall it was just as apologist then as it is now.

Mostly because the game is not balanced towards the mod, the mod doesn't make any changes for this, and the mod causes several issues. It also wasn't "official" as in officially released and endorsed by the developers...

In otherwords "The existence of a mod that overcomes a limitation or flaw in the game doesn't excuse it"

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And even then my conclusion is still kind of solid...

If Skaven can only take Ork settlements... which is such a terrible idea I highly doubt it is true... It really would just finally settle my theory on this whole "It is just weird" excuse they made.

[Criptfeind]

Mostly because the game is not balanced towards the mod, the mod doesn't make any changes for this, and the mod causes several issues. It also wasn't "official" as in officially released and endorsed by the developers...

In otherwords "The existence of a mod that overcomes a limitation or flaw in the game doesn't excuse it"

Although most of the time I can sorta see your point with this, in this case this is bullshit. As soon as they knew they were going to be able to have mods they "offered dev team support" (whatever the heck that actually means) to Dresden to make sure that this mod would come out on day one, and they advertised it's existence as part of their advertisements for the game. No matter how you cut it that's completely official endorsement. So your conclusion is honestly completely wrong.

[Neonivek]

Mostly because the game is not balanced towards the mod, the mod doesn't make any changes for this, and the mod causes several issues. It also wasn't "official" as in officially released and endorsed by the developers...

In otherwords "The existence of a mod that overcomes a limitation or flaw in the game doesn't excuse it"

Although most of the time I can sorta see your point with this, in this case this is bullshit. As soon as they knew they were going to be able to have mods they "offered dev team support" (whatever the heck that actually means) to Dresden to make sure that this mod would come out on day one, and they advertised it's existence as part of their advertisements for the game. No matter how you cut it that's completely official endorsement. So your conclusion is honestly completely wrong.

They did what Firaxis did... which is give him the tools so his mod could come out day 1... Mostly to advertise the tools to admit. (though it seemed to also existed as a deflection of the new system given how the fans often seem to take it.)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

No more a "Created and endorsed" then this game did... In fact Firaxis did more as they actually modified their tools in order to LongWarStudios to do what they needed to do.

Hence why I put an "And" as in "did both"... Because I think ahead in these conversations.

Now usually at this point we either get an escalation by completely misinterpreting what I say in order to twist it into a monster I never conceived of... Or a personal attack. (Why am I saying this? I hope by putting it out here... this won't happen. So people will either give me a "fair enough" and move on... or secondarily will read what I wrote and respond based on that)

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Anyhow point is...

Skaven should have Ork, Dwarf, Human, and Vampire as their settlements they can take...

I honestly thought they would just be able to take humans/Vampire but be able to use underways.

[Mech#4]

Only a brief time for speculation, the DLC pack is up on steam with a video and screenshots to look over.

Spoiler: Interesting points (click to show/hide)

- King Belegar starts in Karak Izor, near the Border Princes.
- Also has several etheral ancestor heroes.
- Increased upkeep until Karak Eight Peaks is retaken.


- Skarsnik starts in Karak Azgaraz, near Bretonnia.
- Skarsnik has Gobbla. Seems as a combined unit.
- Can only recruit orc units in Karak Eight Peaks, which has to be retaken.
- Reduced upkeep and other bonuses for goblin units.


From the screenshots, it seems that if you play as Skarsnik or Belegar you play as a seperate faction of the greenskin or dwarfen race. The flags are different.

The DLC Also includes Regiments of Renown for both Greenskins and Dwarfs. Some interesting ones are a unique Arachnarok spider, the Gob-lobber and Da Eight Peak Loonies.

There's also this page for Wurrzag. A free Lord coming at the same time as The King and the Warlord DLC. October 21st.