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[Teneb]

To me, it might be the best Total War so far. Apart from one of Napoleon's mini-campaigns, I actually hadn't finished a single run since Medieval 2. Now I've finished 2 and am heading for my third. It's also pretty damn fun in the battles, and it actually made me bother to get good rather than just autoresolving with massive numbers.

[Mech#4]

I have enjoyed my playtime so far a lot. It has a nice variety of units and the factions play to different strengths which means you don't get as much of the repeating battle tactics as in Rome II vs the barbarian tribes as Rome.

I hope they add in any units that are missing at later dates, I believe they plan to add naval battles in at some future point, and some more battle maps would not go amiss.


I'm actually a little confused on that last part. The game doesn't have a random map generator like Medieval 2 where the map reflects broadly where the battle is taking place on the campaign map does it? One battle map, the forest with a lane between two copses on a downward slope, I get quite frequently.

[umiman]

No, I believe they removed that awesome map generator thing. It actually wasn't random too. They pregenerated the entire map in Rome 2 and so you had a massive variety of maps and if you liked a specific spot you could mark it down and go fight it again in skirmish or something.

Now it's back to the old style where every... "area" has a map. It would help if more of the maps were more interesting other than just basically flat lands with some minor humps. Currently there are only a miniscule handful of interesting, memorable maps.

By the way, some other problems with the maps include:

1. No wall-less settlement battles.
2. No river crossings, bridges, etc.
3. No beaches, oceans, or stuff like that

[Teneb]

The first in that list I'm willing to forgive because we get awesome settlements in the background instead weird tiny ones. The other ones, though...

[Mech#4]

I would like if more of the battle maps have larger signs of habitation. There are a few farm houses scattered around but I would like maps with field partitions, village streets, edges of dark forests and the like.

[Neonivek]

Anyhow to answer something way earlier it isn't a plothole that the dwarves have little-no actual method of defense against siege towers.

Rather it is called inconsistency. The Dwarves are not built as if they were a part of their own setting.

[Tack]

I like the dwarves, and their fire arrows of doom. The idea of having ballistae as a cost-efficient alternative to canons works, in my mind.
Have you re-re-bought the game yet?

No wall-less settlement battles.

I'm willing to forgive it because we get awesome settlements in the background instead weird tiny ones.

Well I personally didn't like that in all of the previous games you could go barricade yourself in the town centre of a wall-less settlement and your enemy had to path around all of the buildings to get to you.
A fix I always wanted was the ability for soldiers to torch every house on their way in- as real marauders would.

[Neonivek]

I like the dwarves, and their fire arrows of doom. The idea of having ballistae as a cost-efficient alternative to canons works, in my mind.
Have you re-re-bought the game yet?

No the DLC whoring has turned me off the game for good.

Which wouldn't be so bad if I felt like it was expanding the content... But right now I get the distinct impression that it is filling in content slots.

[Tack]

I will personally admit that I had originally been taken in by the statement by CA basically stating: "Strategy games don't sell well. PC-only games don't sell well. If we're gonna keep doing what we love, we have to get y'all to buy heaps of DLC so that we can make money back off our games."

But, considering how back then they were doing 200 maps to a region and now are not, I'm less enthused.


But to complain about DLC-whoring now is precious, considering that SEGA's DLC policy is baseline-so-fucking-crazy that this game actually has less than the standard. Significantly less, depending on how expensive the standalones end up being. From the days of Rome I they've had a policy of trying to squeeze as much money as possible out of their engine before needing to make a new one.

[Neonivek]

But to complain about DLC-whoring now is precious. From the days of Rome I they've had a policy of trying to squeeze as much money as possible out of their engine before needing to make a new one.

A problem is still a problem.

In fact can you even explain why it is a bad attitude to not want a game because they are not only releasing a lot of overpriced DLC... but also leaving huge gaps and absences in the base game in order to have the DLC slot in even at the expense of the overall experience?

In fact can you even explain why "I", someone who likes a complete game... should even buy this if I already find it very expensive before adding in DLC?

Edit: Deleted some stuff. Tack refers to it, but frankly I don't quite like the way I written it.

[Tack]

May need to read the above post again. They're absolutely DLC whores, but they've been up-front about why that is.
If you went back in time and forced them not to lean on DLC, the company likely wouldn't exist today.

Edit: Here's a link to CA people explaining why they did DLC

That being said,  I enjoyed Rome II at launch, so I'm pretty sure I am the worst variety of fanboy.

[Neonivek]

 I don't post that much you called me out. (yes I deleted a large post... frankly... no one needs to read it)

That being said,  I enjoyed Rome II at launch, so I'm pretty sure I am the worst variety of fanboy.

I still bought The Sims 4 and its first expansion even though I knew it was a terrible idea... >_<... though to admit the suckiness of the game crushed me in the end.

So I am not that much better with things I am passionate about.

[sambojin]

I don't post that much you called me out. (yes I deleted a large post... frankly... no one needs to read it)

That being said,  I enjoyed Rome II at launch, so I'm pretty sure I am the worst variety of fanboy.

I still bought The Sims 4 and its first expansion even though I knew it was a terrible idea... >_<... though to admit the suckiness of the game crushed me in the end.

So I am not that much better with things I am passionate about.

I will remember this post the next time you complain about some aspect of, well, anything.

[Tack]

Wait, no! We should encourage this behaviour, not punish it.

[Mech#4]

There's a video out showcasing a new battle map; The Stir River. Looks neat with the river crossings and outcroppings.