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Besmar Misber. Doomed? Or really, really doomed?

Doomed.
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Really really doomed.
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I dunno, he might survive.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2015, 02:51:26 pm »

In the Age of Myth 1015;

Melbil Shorastasrer and her baby daughter Rigoth Avuzetost were killed while fighting a Forgotten Beast that made its way in through a gap in the defenses of the lower levels. Besmar Misber also died.

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There are now a mere 3 adults left in the fortress. This does not bode well. The oldest child is 10 years old, so we only need to hang on a little longer ...
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2015, 03:22:27 pm »

Not much longer and we will see fortress born marriage taking place! I hardly saw them in the genetics test fort some versions earlier.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2015, 04:16:15 pm »

Not much longer and we will see fortress born marriage taking place!

Unless everybody dies first. :P



In the Age of Myths 1015
Congratulations to Bembul Ustuthnish on the birth of a bouncing baby boy!

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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2015, 07:18:42 am »

In the Age of Myths 1017;

Deler Cilobbungek(M) has grown to an adult peasant!

Alath Kenasen is old enough to make her way to another fortress. She is deemed too flighty to settle down and is sent away.

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That give us 4 adults and 11 children. As the child population limit is currently at 300%, we should start seeing more babies soon.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2015, 08:54:12 am »

Nice, it seems you can keep your fortress alive for time enough to someone make it into adulthood.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2015, 09:03:48 am »

Nice, it seems you can keep your fortress alive for time enough to someone make it into adulthood.
Well, we'll be completely ****ed if a dragon turns up. :P



In the Age of Myths 1018;
Tholtig Nilegul has grown to be an adult peasant. We wish her all the best. (Now five adults, ten children)
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2015, 10:31:20 am »

First grown dwarf!
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2015, 11:43:33 am »

In the Age of Myths 1018;
Congratulations to Bembul Ustuthnish on the birth of a beautiful baby girl!
Vabok Oddomalmosh(F)

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[EDIT]Olin Koganthad has grown to be an adult peasant. We wish her all the best.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2015, 03:45:55 pm »

In the Age of Myths 1020;

Congratulations to Bembul Ustuthnish on the birth of a beautiful baby girl!
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This brings us to 6 adults, 11 children. None of the fortress-born are having romantic thoughts yet.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2015, 04:49:45 pm »

Well, the scarcity of romance and complete absence of in-fort marriages in ~15(?) years is a notable bit of science in its own right.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2015, 04:53:55 pm »

Well, the scarcity of romance and complete absence of in-fort marriages in ~15(?) years is a notable bit of science in its own right.
True, but it's worth taking it in context.   Of six adults that are presently in the fort, two are already hitched, one is outside of the 10-year age gap (and was already married once), and the other three are all siblings.  The apparent lack of dwarfcest is worth knowing about, though, if it keeps up. 
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2015, 04:56:47 pm »

one is outside of the 10-year age gap
Is that a thing? Because dwarves live a very long time.

I suppose the apparent lack of dwarfcest is worth knowing about.
It's under question.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2015, 05:01:48 pm »

one is outside of the 10-year age gap
Is that a thing? Because dwarves live a very long time.
I'm not positive since I haven't observed such a phenomenon in the fortress mode (the joys of negative proof), but I was under the impression it was the case.  Specifically, I read it on the wiki under the marriage entry when I was researching the matter earlier and assumed that research had already confirmed it, but I have made no such confirmation for myself, so I can't be absolutely proof-positive on the matter.
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Dwarves must be within 10 years of each other in age, and must not be children or babies, to enter into a romantic relationship. Being friends may be a prerequisite as well. The 10-year restriction only applies in fortress mode, so incoming pregenerated dwarves (i.e. migrants) may have a larger gap between their ages. No marriage between siblings has been observed, but cousins or other distant relatives can marry each other.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2015, 05:11:21 pm »

Huh. It will be interesting to see how that plays out in practise. Although there will be around 13 fortress-born within 10 years from the oldest, so in theory it should not be too limiting.
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Re: Marriage science in DF 0.40.23
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2015, 05:37:40 pm »

[bug #8159, uncle and niece are lovers]

By dwarven standards, that's not incest :P Dwarfs don't marry siblings or their own parents (parents tend to be already married anyway), everyone else is fair game as long as orientation and presumably age agree.

When dwarfs could still marry, cousins would marry each other.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=15096.msg5364003#msg5364003

Parents, children and siblings are the only blood relations that have related thought messages: "talked with father/mother/a child/a sibling"; no such messages exist for any other familial relation, dwarfs will instead build normal social relations with them that don't get displayed on the relations screen.
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