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[Orange Wizard]

Maybe we should just glass the place and start again.

[evilcherry]

I don't know about that. Clinton has experience and knowledge, Trump just has bluster and ignorance.

The mere presence of ISIS / Donald Trump helped the other party to justify their existence.

If I were Trump I would even pay people to bomb some landmarks or do a mass shooting, as long as the public believe the perpetrator is Islamist - and really, someone claiming that he heard "Allahu Akbar" would be enough.

[Neonivek]

I don't think Trump is evil enough to do that. Even if it would benefit him vastly.

[Criptfeind]

I think he'd do it if he could be assured to get away with it... But that doesn't seem particularly likely.

[Neonivek]

I think he'd do it if he could be assured to get away with it... But that doesn't seem particularly likely.

He is more "Screw you over with a loose interpretation of the law" and "Corporate douchery" then outright breaking it kind of guy.

[Criptfeind]

Because outright breaking the law is less effective and more dangerous then simply using it in a broken way.

[Harry Baldman]

I don't think Trump is evil enough to do that. Even if it would benefit him vastly.

I don't think it would. Why put your money and life on the line to achieve something that was going to happen anyway? Is one more bombing or shooting among a dozen going to do anything at all? I suppose it would if you do it on election time. But then you still have the problem of it being likely impossible to cover your tracks well enough to avoid the actual investigation in the matter implicating the actual responsible parties. Not to mention how you'd need to find and finance a suicide terrorist who fits your bill well enough. And then actually make sure the target is somebody who people care about to a greater degree than paying lip service to (such as children or daily commuters, and obviously not any sort of minority).

Sounds like a lot of shit to navigate with an extremely low chance of working out for a glorified con artist.

[Sheb]

We live in a scary, fast-changing world, but thanks god the Westboro Baptists Church remain a point of referrence for douchery, stating that the killer was "sent by God".

[Criptfeind]

Well, they an't wrong I guess.

[smirk]

We live in a scary, fast-changing world, but thanks god the Westboro Baptists Church remain a point of referrence for douchery, stating that the killer was "sent by God".

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Of course, this kind of attitude doesn't really help, but damned if it ain't cathartic.

[Orange Wizard]

Well, they an't wrong I guess.

In a sense they could be not-wrong, but they mean that as an encouragement. They're not saying "such is God's will, we will mourn the tragic loss of life", they're saying "God wants us to murder gays, get hype yey" which is basically blasphemy.

[BFEL]

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[Frumple]

Mm. Vis a vis the folks expressing incredulity the primary weapon used was legal, uh. Looks like it was. More'n one news source reporting it, anyway, and apparently they're getting it straight from ATF and the orlando police. Statements made on their twitters, as ungodly a source as that is. Kinda' brusque and no mention of after market modifications (or lack thereof), but... yeah. Those who were wondering, first blush seems to be looking like they were legal.

... also looks like that fact is throwing fuel on about a half dozen different fires already, too, for what it's worth.

E: Also looks like they've started releasing names of the deceased and whatnot. I... have to say I'm kinda' conflicted about that. On one hand, recognition, sympathy, etc. On the other, there's almost certainly going to be people among the deceased that wouldn't have wanted to be outed or associated with a primarily homosexual venue even post mortum. Would be morbidly unsurprised if there's a few more news stories in the coming weeks about survivors or friends of the deceased being attacked

[Morrigi]

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[Frumple]

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