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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1545186 times)

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19245 on: June 12, 2016, 09:04:04 am »

Suspect is Omar Mateen, born to Afghan parents. FBI has said that he might have ties ro radical terrorist groups.

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« Reply #19246 on: June 12, 2016, 09:48:58 am »

Yeah, died in a shootout with the SWAT team. Meanwhile, several major places on Reddit are trying and spectacularly failing to censor the FBI's suspicion that he was an Islamic terrorist. The facts need to be allowed to separate from the bullshit.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19247 on: June 12, 2016, 09:57:14 am »

Yep. r/news deleted all the comments on the thread identifying the shooter and locked it, but redditors are still voting it up to the top. They aren't having any more censorship, I think.

Death count upped to 50.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19248 on: June 12, 2016, 09:58:01 am »

50 deaths with a single shooter? Wow, you American have to be the best at everything...
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19249 on: June 12, 2016, 10:01:20 am »

Meanwhile, several major places on Reddit are trying and spectacularly failing to censor the FBI's suspicion that he was an Islamic terrorist.
Reddit isn't a government. If this is even true then it's suppression, and not censorship. People are not being executed, jailed, or facing criminal proceedings for posting on reddit.

Please stop confusing suppression for censorship which is a real thing that people actually have to worry about.

Also, please stop posting things happening on reddit as if they're news.

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19250 on: June 12, 2016, 10:02:33 am »

Exchange rates are killer, man. Over in Paris, you guys had 29.3 in the Bataclan.

Multiple explosive devices were found and defused after suspect was killed. No explosions. At least one officer was hit during shootout, according to police scanners.

"Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive,"

ACLU definition agrees with me.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19251 on: June 12, 2016, 10:04:15 am »

"Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive,"

ACLU definition agrees with me.
Please quote the full ACLU definition instead of the part that agrees with you outside of its context.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19252 on: June 12, 2016, 10:06:51 am »

"Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive," happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups. Censorship by the government is unconstitutional."

Yep. Definitely in agreement here. So you can stop trying to defend the people who want to make the worst terrorist attack on US soil in 14 years disappear, kthx.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19253 on: June 12, 2016, 10:07:41 am »

Deadliest mass shooting in US history, over inane hatred.
I can't, just can't fathom why?
What reason would anyone have for this? What inspires someone to do things like this?
Why?
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« Reply #19254 on: June 12, 2016, 10:08:29 am »

Deadliest mass shooting in US history, over inane hatred.
I can't, just can't fathom why?
What reason would anyone have for this? What inspires someone to do things like this?
Why?
I dunno, fanatical, zealous hatred of gay people and Americans?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19255 on: June 12, 2016, 10:12:46 am »

"Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive," happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups. Censorship by the government is unconstitutional."

Yep. Definitely in agreement here. So you can stop trying to defend the people who want to make the worst terrorist attack on US soil in 14 years disappear, kthx.
Perhaps you should actually read the posts that you're responding to, cause he sure as hell doesn't look like he's defending them.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19256 on: June 12, 2016, 10:14:22 am »

Looks like reddit mods have given up on trying to quell the Orlando threads.

Sanders first one to politicize attack, calls for assault weapons ban...

Sooo...Trump's gonna be president. Not sure how I feel.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19257 on: June 12, 2016, 10:15:13 am »

Deadliest mass shooting in US history, over inane hatred.
I can't, just can't fathom why?
What reason would anyone have for this? What inspires someone to do things like this?
Why?
I dunno, fanatical, zealous hatred of gay people and Americans?
And this day is going to pass, and no true change will come out of this, will it? People are inevitably going to put up rainbow flags in solidarity, sure, relevant voices are going to speak, but nothing is going to truly change from this one event, even with how bad it is, just like every other tragedy.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19258 on: June 12, 2016, 10:16:33 am »

Deadliest mass shooting in US history, over inane hatred.
I can't, just can't fathom why?
What reason would anyone have for this? What inspires someone to do things like this?
Why?

A decision-informing worldview and ethos and consistent application of the principles of that ethos.

I'm sick of people on both sides politicizing these tragedies and using them to push their anti-tragedy agendas.  The bodies are still on the floor of the club and people are already using it to trump up their agendas about how we should have fewer mass shootings.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #19259 on: June 12, 2016, 10:21:10 am »

On the bright side, /r/orlando is helping with the blood drive.  The phones at the donation centers are all locked up, but there's important information - homosexuals are allowed to donate blood for this disaster.

I don't know what else to add, kinda in shock.
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