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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1577099 times)

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18690 on: June 01, 2016, 01:57:15 pm »

She is already living in the post-six word era.  It's something that is built into her brand by now, like Trump and outlandish statements.  For something to rock Clinton it would need to be something not built in, like her being outlandish.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18691 on: June 01, 2016, 02:26:04 pm »

Donald Trump is not The Doctor.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18692 on: June 01, 2016, 02:51:28 pm »

Donald Trump is not The Doctor.

You completely misunderstand. Trump is not the doctor. Trump is the aliens wanting to take over the earth, if anything. Somewhere out there though there is the possibility that a few choice words at the right time, in the right place would cause things to tumble down for her. Hell, maybe as mainiac said that already has happened. She's fighting hard enough to get past her previous mistakes. She does look tired.

The point is though, she's put all her eggs in this basket, if she loses now, against an opponent like trump, it's all over for her. Admittedly she's old enough, and rich enough that doesn't matter, she'll be comfortable either way, but her ego will take a hit. Trump loses nothing by losing. She loses everything by losing. And the media is largely in control of who wins or loses, thus she is very careful with the parts of her public character she can control. Donald don't give a duck.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18693 on: June 01, 2016, 03:02:45 pm »

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18694 on: June 01, 2016, 03:04:42 pm »

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18695 on: June 01, 2016, 03:22:44 pm »

She's fighting hard enough to get past her previous mistakes. She does look tired.

I wouldn't really say she is fighting past.  Honestly, she does best when people think she is tired and worn down.  Look at the bump she got before the New Hampshire primary in 2008.  It's just what her brand is.  Hillary is the established politician.  Trump is the demagogue.  Either can be good or bad.  You can have an elder statesman or a Washington insider.  You can have an outsider reformer or an unqualified blowhard.

The six words thing in my mind only makes sense as mind games.  The prime minister can be manipulated because of a neurotic fear of the unknown.  But Clinton has been on the receiving end of really vile attacks for a long time.  I doubt a mind game like that would work on her because she learned to shut them out like 30 years ago after Whitewater.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18696 on: June 01, 2016, 04:27:57 pm »

Trump loses by losing. How would his ego take it? Not well, I suspect.

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18697 on: June 01, 2016, 04:59:28 pm »

I think his ego would be completely unfazed. His ego didn't get dented when he was roundly laughed out of his last presidential exploration. Today he'd just offload the responsibility for failure on to everyone else, calling everyone a loser.

Somehow I still can't believe that a guy who uses 5th grade bully logic somehow has a shot at being president.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18698 on: June 01, 2016, 05:18:22 pm »

It's the natural way of humanity. Truth is, everyone loves a bully, it elevates the group at the expense of the outgroup and is thus advantageous behavior.
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« Reply #18699 on: June 01, 2016, 07:34:58 pm »

Trump loses by losing. How would his ego take it? Not well, I suspect.


What exactly does he lose?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18700 on: June 01, 2016, 07:58:17 pm »

Possibly his sanity.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18701 on: June 01, 2016, 09:18:40 pm »

It's the natural way of humanity. Truth is, everyone loves a bully, it elevates the group at the expense of the outgroup and is thus advantageous behavior.

Over-generalizing much?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18702 on: June 01, 2016, 09:27:40 pm »

He should have said everybody except for NEEEEERDS
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18703 on: June 01, 2016, 09:36:27 pm »

It's the natural way of humanity. Truth is, everyone loves a bully, it elevates the group at the expense of the outgroup and is thus advantageous behavior.

Over-generalizing much?
It is, after all, a general statement. The evolutionary benefits of groupmaking is clear, and to have a group, you have to have an outgroup.

This isn't my attempt at being edgy, but it is the way that the world is. You'd be ill-pressed to find someone who doesn't want to engage in behavior that, from the perspective of their outgroup, is bullying. People have been horrible to me, I have been horrible to others, and never have I so much as heard of someone who was isolated from the way we organize ourselves. It's not judgement on our species, or anything.

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18704 on: June 01, 2016, 10:32:49 pm »

Sweet zeus he's unironically spewing evopsych. Not even the gods can save him now.
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