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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1570466 times)

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18210 on: May 21, 2016, 09:25:38 am »

... yeah, it's pretty terrible. There... there needs to be a hell of a lot more overlap to make those numbers be properly represented.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18211 on: May 21, 2016, 09:26:32 am »

but 83% of gun owners don't.

The opposite.

Still a terrible venn diagram, and completely useless.
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« Reply #18212 on: May 21, 2016, 09:32:09 am »

Venn diagrams aren't the proper way to show percentages anyway. They're only supposed to show simple Yes/No relations between different groups.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18213 on: May 21, 2016, 09:37:01 am »

It's... trying to? The yes/no relation is towards universal background checks, and the different groups are americans and gun owners (though there's some overlap between those two in ways not covered by the diagram, obviously enough). The percentages are basically just fuzzy numbers, since it's difficult to fit a nine digit number (that wouldn't even be entirely accurate itself) in a circle that size.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18214 on: May 21, 2016, 09:42:04 am »

They probably should have just gone with two pie charts.  Or even just one, showing support from gun owners.  It's confusing to also try to include the percentage of the supergroup at the same time...

Particularly when it actually just brings attention to the fact that gun owners are less likely to support the measure.  Which is both obvious, but also (if anything) an argument against the measure.  Just... just point out that a clear majority of gun owners support the background checks, that's so much cleaner.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18215 on: May 21, 2016, 09:42:55 am »

I know it doesn't make sense. That's why I posted it  :P

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18216 on: May 21, 2016, 09:44:53 am »

Yes, but now everyone else wants to complain about it too. :P
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18217 on: May 21, 2016, 09:47:30 am »

I know it doesn't make sense. That's why I posted it.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18218 on: May 21, 2016, 10:02:06 am »

Hillary Clinton just released this venn diagram:

I didn't even know Hillary Clinton did graphic design.

This reminds me of a fun game to play with regards to the x-files.  Describe all people who work for the government in any capacity as "the government".  So Scully and Maulder are the government.  Skinner is the government.  The smoking man is the government.  So sometimes the government thinks that the government is acting like loose cannons but the government is quick to point out that the government gets results and the government cant continue her work without the government.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18219 on: May 21, 2016, 10:05:54 am »

... now you've got me mildly curious where it was actually released at. Twitter or somethin'? E: Oh wow, it actually was.

Also looks like it wasn't actually posted by hillary, just... presumably whoever's filling the thing up with tweets. Wonder if a staffer's about to get the boot :V
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18220 on: May 21, 2016, 10:09:56 am »

Hillary Clinton just released this venn diagram:

I didn't even know Hillary Clinton did graphic design.

This reminds me of a fun game to play with regards to the x-files.  Describe all people who work for the government in any capacity as "the government".  So Scully and Maulder are the government.  Skinner is the government.  The smoking man is the government.  So sometimes the government thinks that the government is acting like loose cannons but the government is quick to point out that the government gets results and the government cant continue her work without the government.

There are allegations that the government leaked files from the government and now the government want to jail the government.

And Donald Trump wants to prevent the government from leading the US.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18221 on: May 21, 2016, 10:23:49 am »

Some of the comments are helarious.

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18222 on: May 21, 2016, 01:52:50 pm »

... now you've got me mildly curious where it was actually released at. Twitter or somethin'? E: Oh wow, it actually was.

Also looks like it wasn't actually posted by hillary, just... presumably whoever's filling the thing up with tweets. Wonder if a staffer's about to get the boot :V

I'm well aware that high profile people often rarely if ever touch their own twitter account, but at the same time, intended view of that is that she made that diagram herself and that tweet came out of her mouth. If it had been tweeted from an account like "The HRC Campgaign" that'd be different, but her name is at the top of that account.

Although it does say "Tweets from Hillary signed with -H" in the profile... but if I hadn't dug deeper into it, and perhaps had just been one of thousands, even millions of people who might have seen that as a tweet by itself, I wouldn't have known that for sure.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18223 on: May 21, 2016, 02:48:35 pm »

I'm pretty sure Trump does his own. Who else could?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18224 on: May 21, 2016, 03:04:06 pm »

I'm pretty sure Trump does his own. Who else could?

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