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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1582608 times)

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17190 on: May 03, 2016, 02:33:47 pm »

It's not linked to the NC laws, that's for sure, but we can't really dispute what happens in the video. Maybe the cops in the video are acting without any legal basis for their actions: but that certainly doesn't bode well for when they get a mandate to do what we see in the video.
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« Reply #17191 on: May 03, 2016, 02:42:12 pm »

It's not linked to the NC laws, that's for sure, but we can't really dispute what happens in the video.

According to snopes, the video was made in december. Though without a timestamp on it, it's hard to say when it took place anyway.

I looked a bit and it seems like the law isn't actually being enforced, at least it doesn't sound like it.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17192 on: May 03, 2016, 02:54:30 pm »

Yeah, sorry, even in the Snopes article it said it was probably not related. I saw stories linking it, and then I tried to dig further to get a postable source.

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17193 on: May 03, 2016, 03:06:23 pm »

The one thing republicans never considered was how to deal with hermaphrodites

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Then either things are really damn different in NZ or you're basically blind
Honestly either of these are pretty likely
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17194 on: May 03, 2016, 03:10:36 pm »

The one thing republicans never considered was how to deal with hermaphrodites

That's still transgender in their view.
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« Reply #17195 on: May 03, 2016, 04:56:41 pm »

They also never consider the fact that their hypothetical predators could impersonate trans men much more easily than trans women.

There are no known cases of actual human hermaphrodites, by the way.  Humans can have intersex conditions, which are superficially similar, but an actual hermaphrodite is fully functional as both male and female.  Intersex people are not.  Slugs are an example of hermaphrodites.
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« Reply #17196 on: May 03, 2016, 05:13:16 pm »

I'm guessing that some polling places are still going and due in about 45 min due to timezones?

Edit: Saw that theres apparently a handful of counties in the central timezone, so, yeah.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17197 on: May 03, 2016, 05:34:09 pm »

They do have a choice.  They either register with the party or they dont vote in closed primaries.

In other words, you have a choice between supporting the interests of the two organizations that dominate national politics, or having no meaningful input at all.

Yeah, it's not like the barrier to become a registered democrat is very high. I'm a green party member. I pay my fee. I get to vote in the leadership of the party, the platform and the composition of the various electoral lists. I'd be pretty upset if some random socialist came in and wanted to vote on who our candidates are going to be.

This is much more fair when you have a decent selection of functional parties carrying actual weight in your nation's politics.
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« Reply #17198 on: May 03, 2016, 06:19:40 pm »

If your socialist or green party gets to be important enough, whichever of the big too parties is closest is all but required to absorb it into their general platform. If they don't, a serious third party run guarantees that they lose.


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« Reply #17199 on: May 03, 2016, 06:28:05 pm »

If your socialist or green party gets to be important enough, whichever of the big too parties is closest is all but required to absorb it into their general platform. If they don't, a serious third party run guarantees that they lose.


That's the unfortunate effect of the First Past The Post system.

Sheb, what system does Belgium use? I'm gonna assume it's not FPTP.
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« Reply #17200 on: May 03, 2016, 06:33:51 pm »

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In other words, you have a choice between supporting the interests of the two organizations that dominate national politics, or having no meaningful input at all.

What does that even mean?  I mean it's probably true in some literal sense but "supporting the party" seems to be "increase the registration numbers by one".  If you are so hostile towards the democratic party that you consider that a bad thing I absofuckinglutely do not want you getting your grubby hands anywhere near our nomination process.
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« Reply #17201 on: May 03, 2016, 06:39:30 pm »

If your socialist or green party gets to be important enough, whichever of the big too parties is closest is all but required to absorb it into their general platform. If they don't, a serious third party run guarantees that they lose.


That's the unfortunate effect of the First Past The Post system.

Sheb, what system does Belgium use? I'm gonna assume it's not FPTP.

That's the great beauty of the American two party system
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17202 on: May 03, 2016, 06:55:44 pm »

When was the last time that you heard of a person expressing "TERF" views (I'm not even convinced those are a real thing).  Like in real life.

When was the last time you heard casual sexism with no consequences to the person expressing it.  Agains, in real life.

There's a reason why we are more concerned with one then the other...
When was the last time transgender people were actively persecuted by law?

Not as easy as you might think. Casual sexism is common, but casual transphobia+overt trans hatred is at least as common.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17203 on: May 03, 2016, 07:00:51 pm »

I don't remember if anyone mentioned, but Trump has hinted that Ted Cruz's father was involved with the JFK assassination
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“I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?” Trump continued. “It’s horrible.”

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #17204 on: May 03, 2016, 07:03:20 pm »

Is it really that unbelievable? After all, we are talking about the man who fathered the Zodiac Killer.
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