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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15735 on: March 30, 2016, 01:03:12 am »

So apparently Trump won't support another Republican candidate if they get the nomination and neither Kasich nor Cruz will give a clear answer to that question. GOP breakup when?

Which is smart for him, even if he intends to "change his mind" later. He's holding the moderates hostage.

I think the key is that Republicans need an alternative, and nobody left in the race is really appealing to most republican voters. Let's go over the list: Trump, who's a proud sociopath, Cruz, who in any other election would be a dangerous radical, Bernie Sanders, who's the Jewish Stalin if you ask some Americans, and finally Hillary, who aside from any material complaints is second only to Obama in being a pure lightning rod of hate.

Without a substantial split like Kaisich v. Trump or something, I worry that the party will agglomerate in 2020 like a troll reattaching its' severed arm.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15736 on: March 30, 2016, 02:01:01 am »

Ahaha.

When Mr. Cooper asked if Mr. Trump had ever apologized for anything, he replied, “Oh, wow. I don’t know. I’ll think. Can I think?”

He added, “I do believe in apologizing if you’re wrong.” And then conceded, “I apologize to my wife for not being presidential on occasion.”
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15737 on: March 30, 2016, 02:52:07 am »

So apparently Trump won't support another Republican candidate if they get the nomination and neither Kasich nor Cruz will give a clear answer to that question. GOP breakup when?

Which is smart for him, even if he intends to "change his mind" later. He's holding the moderates hostage.

I think the key is that Republicans need an alternative, and nobody left in the race is really appealing to most republican voters. Let's go over the list: Trump, who's a proud sociopath, Cruz, who in any other election would be a dangerous radical, Bernie Sanders, who's the Jewish Stalin if you ask some Americans, and finally Hillary, who aside from any material complaints is second only to Obama in being a pure lightning rod of hate.

Without a substantial split like Kaisich v. Trump or something, I worry that the party will agglomerate in 2020 like a troll reattaching its' severed arm.

Didn't they all swear an oath to support the nominee?
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15738 on: March 30, 2016, 03:05:25 am »


What he did fits the legal definition of battery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_%28crime%29#United_States

Which matters how much if it doesn't end up in a law court?

Most people who are going to care will already be anti-trump, I doubt many trump supporters will care & in a week or so the majority of people will just forget it even happened.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15739 on: March 30, 2016, 03:54:08 am »

I think the key is that Republicans need an alternative, and nobody left in the race is really appealing to most republican voters. Let's go over the list: Trump, who's a proud sociopath, Cruz, who in any other election would be a dangerous radical, Bernie Sanders, who's the Jewish Stalin if you ask some Americans, and finally Hillary, who aside from any material complaints is second only to Obama in being a pure lightning rod of hate.

You forgot about Poland Kasich.  Which pretty much sums up the problems of the republican party.  The man has broad appeal in the republican party, represents the views of the party well and it doesn't even occur to party elites that maybe he could get some votes and at least give the party a voice at it's own convention.  I dont know which possibility is worse, either they are so scared by Trump they can't even think to throw Kasich a bone or the republican party really is a lost cause and they shouldn't try.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15740 on: March 30, 2016, 05:05:40 am »

I don't know if the North Carolina thing has been brought up, but I am totally baffled how people are able to say "Thanks for standing up for all of us!" when the legislation McRory passed is standing against very specific groups.

"Thanks for standing up for all North Carolinans! Except, you know, the gay/transgender ones. But aside from that, perfect!"

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15741 on: March 30, 2016, 06:20:27 am »


What he did fits the legal definition of battery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_%28crime%29#United_States

Which matters how much if it doesn't end up in a law court?

Most people who are going to care will already be anti-trump, I doubt many trump supporters will care & in a week or so the majority of people will just forget it even happened.

... and none of that was a point I made. What I said was in response to someone putting 'battery' in scare-quotes, implying there was no battery. Scare quotes only add to confusion when the thing in question literally matches the verbatim definition of the thing. We should at least get our facts straight before making judgements one way or another.

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15743 on: March 30, 2016, 07:00:30 am »

Didn't they all swear an oath to support the nominee?
Not legally binding est :P

Most oaths aren't, really. So they matter roughly as much as the integrity of the oathmaker and the extent other people care about the lack thereof. For current state of both, please consider the progression 2016 republican primaries.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15744 on: March 30, 2016, 09:23:11 am »

Oh FFS, Trump is saying the reporters pen could have been a bomb or some shit.

Sounds like he's watched too many movies....

Also found this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/03/30/cops-teen-sexually-assaulted-pepper-sprayed-at-trump-rally.html
« Last Edit: March 30, 2016, 09:25:47 am by smjjames »
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15745 on: March 30, 2016, 12:25:11 pm »

Oh FFS, Trump is saying the reporters pen could have been a bomb or some shit.

Sounds like he's watched too many movies....

Also found this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/03/30/cops-teen-sexually-assaulted-pepper-sprayed-at-trump-rally.html

Also heard reports she was actually 19, not 15, and obviously based on that video she initiated any violence there. The groping is questionable, but that crowd is pretty well packed together. People are going to brush up against each other unintentionally.

Although the fact that it went straight from a light shove to pepper spray is probably undue escalation. But still, fault on both parties there.

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15746 on: March 30, 2016, 12:28:51 pm »

obviously based on that video she initiated any violence there.
What? Did we watch the same video?
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15747 on: March 30, 2016, 12:37:29 pm »

> battery

"But if I can't batter the women how the fuck am I supposed to bake them a cake then?" - Eminem

I wonder if Eminem is Donald Trump's favorite artist. Seems like he ought to like the lyrics etc etc.

Although I think Marilyn Manson's We're From America should be his theme song:

Quote from: Excerpts from We're From America
We don't believe in credibility
Because we're know that we're fucking incredible
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We don't like to kill our unborn
We need them to grow up and fight our wars
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We believe in everything we say
We say it because we believe it
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15748 on: March 30, 2016, 02:35:10 pm »

obviously based on that video she initiated any violence there.
What? Did we watch the same video?

Here are some not-shit ones. Sluissa has the right of it, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg_cuODF5rU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO3I5VBEE_4

The relevant bit in the second one starts at 1:15 or so.
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