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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1547467 times)

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15045 on: March 18, 2016, 09:03:28 pm »

Trump is a warning sign for the republican leadership that draws their attention to problems they have been ignoring.
he's also a rallying point that legitimizes those problems for people who aren't the leadership, is my point

as with hitler, so with sanders - it's not an equivalence, it's an attempt to base my argument on some shared common ground, in this case that even a losing candidate can influence the political landscape by virtue of attracting unexpected support
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15046 on: March 18, 2016, 09:05:25 pm »

There's something or other going around the various states, 50% of the needed electoral college have ratified it (so basically 25% of the electoral college) that, regardless of how their individual state votes, they'll put their electors to the winner of the popular vote.

Obviously it doesn't go into effect unless and until they reach that 50% of electoral college.

I think the last state to ratify it was in the last year or so? Maybe in the last three. It was a small one though.

Link? I haven't heard anything about it and that sounds like a decent idea to improve it.
The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which is an interstate compact because that bypasses the need for anything like a constitutional amendment.  By the bye, you may be hearing more about it fairly soon; if it passes in all states where it's being bounced about in committee right now, it will cover 269 electoral votes, or precisely 50%.  Unfortunately, what it needs is not just 50%, but also an absolute majority (50% + 1).  So if it does pass in all ten states, it'll be like flipping a coin and having it land edge. :P
Of course, hoping for it to not die in committee or fail to pass in all ten might be a bit of a forlorn shot.

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Oh, and the last state to ratify it was New York in 2014.  Descan is almost certainly thinking of Rhode Island in 2013, so that should be a pleasant update.

It'd just mean that it won't go into effect this year, I think, and I guess a constitutional amendment would be a possible next step to sort of put it down in stone, so to speak.
Yes, that would be correct.  It would still be amusing until the next (and last) state ratifies it.  Perhaps I'm just easily amused, though.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15047 on: March 18, 2016, 10:06:28 pm »

Imma just leave this here.

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15048 on: March 18, 2016, 10:07:49 pm »

Why did no body tell me about this society?
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15049 on: March 18, 2016, 10:08:20 pm »

Why did no body tell me about this society?

You never asked.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15050 on: March 18, 2016, 10:09:20 pm »

that is what i have generally thought about him too. definitely a Mussolini not so much a Hitler.
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« Reply #15051 on: March 18, 2016, 10:11:32 pm »

Mussolini doesn't have quite the same, well, fame, if you will.

Maybe I'll wiki him though to gain a deeper understanding.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15052 on: March 18, 2016, 10:21:59 pm »

Imma just leave this here.

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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15053 on: March 18, 2016, 10:24:28 pm »

i'll be honest

mussolini always sounded like a pasta to me
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15054 on: March 18, 2016, 10:29:51 pm »

that is what i have generally thought about him too. definitely a Mussolini not so much a Hitler.

Like Benito, Trump has quite the habit of changing his ideology.  A liberal, then a conservative, then an authoritarian, probably a libertarian next.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15055 on: March 18, 2016, 11:30:33 pm »

I made the Mussolini comparison pages ago with a link that described his rise to power pretty well. I am going to take 100% credit for this thread finally recognizing the validity of my posting. Thank you, Ameripol thread, for seeing how right I am. It's taken you a while, but you're finally correct.

God bless the Ameripol thread, and God bless Canada -- I mean America! I totally meant America.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15056 on: March 19, 2016, 12:20:31 am »

OMG, now he's questioning whether Mitt Romney is really a Mormon!

"Do I love the Mormons? I have many friends that live in Salt Lake City -- and by the way, Mitt Romney is not one of them," Trump said to applause. "Are you sure he's a Mormon? Are we sure?"

Do I love the humans? I have many friends that live on Earth -- and by the way, Donald Trump is not one of them. Are you sure he's a human? Are we sure?
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15057 on: March 19, 2016, 12:31:23 am »

I suspect parasitic alien hairpiece, attached to hapless human host.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15058 on: March 19, 2016, 01:27:19 am »

I kinda have to wonder what his motivations are for asking the question. I mean, Mormons are suspect enough to much of the American population- they're insular and frankly kinda cultish. Is he implying Romney's a crypto-Muslim?

As with many of The Donald's pronouncements, the reasoning may forever remain a mystery.
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #15059 on: March 19, 2016, 01:32:13 am »

He also seems to have a plank of turning US defense treaties into a protection racket. Charging places like Germany and Japan billions a year for our military presence, for instance.

Bit late but I'd agree to that deal if we get to charge the US back for every piece of US made military hardware in the enemies hands.
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