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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11985 on: February 17, 2016, 11:46:23 pm »

But why would politicians lie?

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11986 on: February 17, 2016, 11:50:20 pm »

But why would politicians lie?
I have no idea. Maybe the politicians are lying to us about it.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11987 on: February 18, 2016, 01:13:49 am »

Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the campaign trail and tell lies?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11988 on: February 18, 2016, 01:15:05 am »

Cruz would....
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11989 on: February 18, 2016, 01:15:35 am »

What if the government was evil?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11990 on: February 18, 2016, 01:24:00 am »

What if this is a shitpost?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11991 on: February 18, 2016, 01:30:07 am »

I think the worse ones are the politicians that don't lie, but manage to bullshit their way around the truth so expertly they would have been more honest had they actually lied, like the kind that can get people to cheer the news their Mum's just been run over by a truck

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11992 on: February 18, 2016, 02:12:27 am »

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11993 on: February 18, 2016, 02:16:02 am »

If it is one thing politicians are (or at least aspire to be) good at, it is rhetoric.

...actually, anyone have a transcription of some speech by Trump? I wanna see if he is doing what I think he's doing.
Rhetoric is kinda required for good public speaking, I'd say. And good public speaking is probably required to go anywhere in politics.

Trump pretty much adlibs his speeches, as far as I know. He has common talking points he tends to repeat each speech, but then again so do most candidates when it comes to talking about their policies and platforms.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11994 on: February 18, 2016, 05:59:31 am »

It makes the key assumption that politicians don't lie.

They can tell the truth and no one will notice.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11995 on: February 18, 2016, 08:29:23 am »

It makes the key assumption that politicians don't lie.

They can tell the truth and no one will notice.
Politicians are Jedi Masters at telling the truth "from a certain point of view".
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11996 on: February 18, 2016, 08:36:26 am »

They say what they mean with a spin because they are trying to sell an idea.  That doesn't mean it's particularly difficult to guess a politicians agenda from their public statements.  There are the occasional curveballs like Bush deciding to invade Iraq or Obama keeping some of the questionable war on terror civil liberty stuff.  But if you look at the budgets that get implemented for instance, they pretty much resemble the platforms publicly laid out years in advance.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11997 on: February 18, 2016, 08:41:18 am »

Politicians are Jedi Masters at telling the truth "from a certain point of view".
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... honestly, as candidates for a political position, neither of those two are someone I'd want to see in office. They both pretty massively buggered up on the political/command side of things. Teach special forces, handle diplomacy while carefully monitored, maybe do some medical stuff, sure, but lead? Administrate? Sorry, but no. The first was a large portion of the reason an entire galaxy-scale nation got usurped basically caesar-style (and was decidedly average, at best, as a military commander, and that with freaking space wizard powers), the second basically presided over the fall (and murder!) of a multi-millennium old religious order, among a whole host of other incompetencies. These are not people I'd want heading the white house.

Also, just saying, but if you've got concerns re: age, Yoda is not someone you want anywhere near the position. Nevermind getting up there, the little gnome is older than the country itself. That's like senility stacked on senility with a side of imminent physical existence failure. No one wants that.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11998 on: February 18, 2016, 08:57:46 am »

Makes sense why Jedi weren't allowed to be part of the Senate.

*hand wave* "You will vote for me...and name your firstborn after me."

"I will vote for you and name my firstborn after you."

Poll numbers, endorsements, fundraisers...a Jedi craves not these things. A Jeb, on the other hand...
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #11999 on: February 18, 2016, 09:25:52 am »

Vote for Jeb Kerman.
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