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[mainiac]

When it's changes I agree with, it's keeping the basic intent intact.  When it's changes I disagree with, it's throwing out everything.

I think Lincoln had a rather brilliant discussion of what the founders intent means:
http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/cooper.htm

The same sort of thinking should guide us today.  Just because somebody claims the constitution supports their cause does not in fact make that true.

[mainiac]

Well naturally it's quite brilliant, it was made by a heroic figure of the past.

[Helgoland]

I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes.

That was the first one to come to mind. What other good ones are out there?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I for one have always had a soft spot for men in their 20's who reject the idea of work and stay at home with their waifus all day. Personally, I think the rest of us can sustain ourselves purely with fantasizing about licking Chancellor Merkel's heel, I know I do.

[smjjames]

Undercard debate in about 8 min ish.

Also, where's the 'live blogs' section on 538? I know I could just search for the term or wait until the banner pops up, but that section has disappeared since they did a minor redesign of the site.

[MaximumZero]

I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes.

That was the first one to come to mind. What other good ones are out there?

My words are backed with nuclear weapons!

[RedKing]

In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.

[smjjames]

My words are backed with nuclear weapons!

That's a Civilization series quote, lol.

[MaximumZero]

My words are backed with nuclear weapons!

That's a Civilization series quote, lol.

That was the joke, yes.

[Baffler]

... You say that these people are not themselves responsible, that it is "society" that is responsible. I agree with you if you mean, as I suppose you do, that society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind. It is really extraordinary that our people refuse to apply to human beings such elementary knowledge as every successful farmer is obliged to apply to his own stock breeding. Any group of farmers who permitted their best stock not to breed, and let all the increase come from the worst stock, would be treated as fit inmates for an asylum. Yet we fail to understand that such conduct is rational compared to the conduct of a nation which permits unlimited breeding from the worst stocks, physically and morally, while it encourages or connives at the cold selfishness or the twisted sentimentality as a result of which the men and women ought to marry, and if married have large families, remain celebates or have no children or only one or two. Some day we will realize that the prime duty the inescapable duty of the good citizen of the right type is to leave his or her blood behind him in the world; and that we have no business to permit the perpetuation of citizens of the wrong type.

[smjjames]

... You say that these people are not themselves responsible, that it is "society" that is responsible. I agree with you if you mean, as I suppose you do, that society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind. It is really extraordinary that our people refuse to apply to human beings such elementary knowledge as every successful farmer is obliged to apply to his own stock breeding. Any group of farmers who permitted their best stock not to breed, and let all the increase come from the worst stock, would be treated as fit inmates for an asylum. Yet we fail to understand that such conduct is rational compared to the conduct of a nation which permits unlimited breeding from the worst stocks, physically and morally, while it encourages or connives at the cold selfishness or the twisted sentimentality as a result of which the men and women ought to marry, and if married have large families, remain celebates or have no children or only one or two. Some day we will realize that the prime duty the inescapable duty of the good citizen of the right type is to leave his or her blood behind him in the world; and that we have no business to permit the perpetuation of citizens of the wrong type.

Context would be nice for that one (ie. what is he responding to?).

What was the crowd booing at? The civil war in the GOP thing?

The captions are actually showing the bell this time, heh.

[RedKing]

From what I found, Roosevelt was writing to the head of the Eugenics Office of the US Government. Apparently to say, "GET MORE EUGENIC" because the guy was like "Umm...yeah, I don't know if this is such a great idea".




EDIT: So is this Jim Gilmore? I honestly have no idea what he looks like.

[smjjames]

EDIT: So is this Jim Gilmore? I honestly have no idea what he looks like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gilmore

At least I won't get him confused between Pataki and Graham, which is most likely why I don't remember him from the August debate.

[mainiac]

I think his website crashed under the traffic.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Ugh, this very much is the "under" card debate. The problem with these ones isn't that they're bad politicians, it's that they're boring as sin. No wonder Trump is winning.

I was going to do closing statements for this, but I can't stand it, I'm going to go play TF2 instead.