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[Loud Whispers]

Occupying an empty building doesn't qualify as terrorism by any reasonable definition. Hopefully no one gets shot.

OCCUPY WALLSTREET CONFIRMED TERRORISTS, OBAMA HELLFIRE MISSILES DISPATCH ASAP

[Willfor]

Nitpickers. Nitpickers everywhere.

[Strife26]

I wasn't going to break that put right away, but basically.

Disruptive, prone-to-violence protests gonna protest.

I'd very much like to not see any us citizens eat hellfires without a trial in absentia.

[Baffler]

So what you're saying is, "the standard isn't applied consistently! We should harmonize our system by having our administration treat everyone as badly as they can get away with instead of just black people." If I understand you right. If that's the case I'm not really even sure where to begin. This is being handled exactly as it should be.

And it seems I was wrong. It isn't even a hostage situation, they're just sitting in a previously unoccupied ranger station out in the middle of nowhere and refusing to leave. I don't know the precedent for how this sort of thing plays out after the incident, but I'm not inclined to call them terrorists either.

[Bauglir]

Yeah, terrorism it ain't. They aren't attempting to alter policy through creating fear or anything like that. The closest thing to terrorism involved in this would be the arson thing, but those people are already in prison and that lacked a political motivation anyway. Mind, they're still trespassing shitheads and I hope they get the book thrown at 'em once they're pried from the building's cold, dead halls. And, of course, there's ways this could easily turn into terrorism, but that's a different thing.

[Willfor]

In a video shot Saturday, Ammon Bundy — Cliven Bundy’s son — explained that the plan was to turn the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge into a “base place for patriots from all over the country to come and to be housed here and to live here.”
“We’re going to be staying here for several years. We need you to bring your arms and we need you to come to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge,” Bundy added later in the video.
In another video posted Saturday night, Ammon Bundy said “the people have been abused long enough” and said people should be allowed to us public land and resources.

So basically, a group can essentially take over government land, threaten to turn it into a giant compound full of weapons and illegal booby traps, and this is not terrorism. I guess you're all correct. It's invasion. 

[Bauglir]

No, it's treason. Pretty big difference, there.

[Wolfhunter107]

In a video shot Saturday, Ammon Bundy — Cliven Bundy’s son — explained that the plan was to turn the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge into a “base place for patriots from all over the country to come and to be housed here and to live here.”
“We’re going to be staying here for several years. We need you to bring your arms and we need you to come to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge,” Bundy added later in the video.
In another video posted Saturday night, Ammon Bundy said “the people have been abused long enough” and said people should be allowed to us public land and resources.

So basically, a group can essentially take over government land, threaten to turn it into a giant compound full of weapons and illegal booby traps, and this is not terrorism. I guess you're all correct. It's invasion. 

Last time I checked, the Bundy militia wasn't a sovereign nation.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Everything about this is stupid and I refuse to take it seriously.

[Loud Whispers]

So basically, a group can essentially take over government land, threaten to turn it into a giant compound full of weapons and illegal booby traps, and this is not terrorism. I guess you're all correct. It's invasion. 

If it were a foreign group, the US government works for the US citizenry not the other way around.

[Egan_BW]

Looks to me like they're fixin' to start a dwarf fortress.

[wobbly]

... There's going to be a cool moat, a secret garage for our cars, and machine gun turrets in the trees. And we're going to put booby traps outside the walls

& then we're going to have like cars with flamethrowers & shit attached to the side & stockpiles of beers & stuff. It's gonna be tops.

[martinuzz]

... There's going to be a cool moat, a secret garage for our cars, and machine gun turrets in the trees. And we're going to put booby traps outside the walls

& then we're going to have like cars with flamethrowers & shit attached to the side & stockpiles of beers & stuff. It's gonna be tops.

Maybe they can get Donald Trump to join them. Would be hilarious.

[Strife26]

That's obviously just talk, they're not going to be there for more than six months, and that's a ridiculously generous upper limit.

It's really a very elegant bit of protest. The only thing on the line, besides the occupier lives, fortune, and sacred honor, is insignificant federal land. That and the government's vanity and power, of course.

If the government acts properly, it'll be a home run for establishing their legitimacy in distrusting eyes. And if they fuck it up, that's just as useful too. 

[Flying Dice]

Same shit they pulled when Cliven Bundy tried to get away with using public land illegally. They're traitors throwing a fit and attempting to overturn U.S. sovereignty instead of engaging in the normal political process and should be treated as such. If a second Civil War starts over clearing them out, we can finish a nasty bit of hundred-and-sixty-odd year old business once and for all. If a group of private citizens gathers arms and occupies federal land with the express purpose of carving out an enclave independent of federal and state law, that's rebellion. If they try to oppose U.S. authorities with military force, that's treason.

Nothing happened last time despite the fact that these militia fucks were stopping U.S. citizens at armed checkpoints to check for proof of residency, and I doubt anything will happen here, but it damned well should.