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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8640 on: December 23, 2015, 12:58:10 pm »

Well it's illegal.  The law probably does about as much deterrence of mugging as the guns do utterance of muggings but if the police do happen to detain someone with a concealed gun in a state where it's illegal that person can be put in jail.
Is attacking someone to steal their shit not illegal in America?

I don't get the logic for carrying a concealed weapon to protect against a mugger. The mugger(s) is going to already have their weapon out & they are not exactly going to let you rummage around in your handbag to get the weapon out.
If you're the average woman walking home in the night and you see a 6"2 100 kilo man walking towards you down the street, would you rather be armed or unarmed?

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8641 on: December 23, 2015, 01:04:28 pm »

Well it's illegal.  The law probably does about as much deterrence of mugging as the guns do utterance of muggings but if the police do happen to detain someone with a concealed gun in a state where it's illegal that person can be put in jail.
Is attacking someone to steal their shit not illegal in America?

Depends on what time frame you're looking at. :P
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8642 on: December 23, 2015, 01:05:10 pm »

Guys you DO realize you are sliding toward the gun control debate again, right?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8643 on: December 23, 2015, 01:08:05 pm »

I don't get the logic for carrying a concealed weapon to protect against a mugger. The mugger(s) is going to already have their weapon out & they are not exactly going to let you rummage around in your handbag to get the weapon out.
If you're the average woman walking home in the night and you see a 6"2 100 kilo man walking towards you down the street, would you rather be armed or unarmed?
I'd rather not be the sort of self-absorbed ass that assumes every person they happen across is as interested in them and their shit as they are?

An issue being there's nothing stopping the mugger from also carrying a concealed weapon with which to mug you :0
Nothing ever stopping a mugger from doing so
Except, k'now, lack of availability. And I gotta say, if I had to choose between getting into a shootout with a mugger who also had a gun versus running the hell away from one who had a knife or table leg or whatever... I know which situation I'd rather be in.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8644 on: December 23, 2015, 01:10:46 pm »

I don't get the logic for carrying a concealed weapon to protect against a mugger. The mugger(s) is going to already have their weapon out & they are not exactly going to let you rummage around in your handbag to get the weapon out.
If you're the average woman walking home in the night and you see a 6"2 100 kilo man walking towards you down the street, would you rather be armed or unarmed?

Well I'm not 100 kilos but I do tend to be walking down the street at night & I don't particularly want to be shot at or have a gun pulled on me. I'd actually rather be unarmed, I'm not a woman but I don't see why you think that makes a heck of a difference to your question, guys do get mugged as well.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8645 on: December 23, 2015, 01:16:54 pm »

I don't need weapons because these fists are deadly weapons! (Attempts to do a karate kick, falls over)
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8646 on: December 23, 2015, 01:36:26 pm »

I don't need weapons because these fists are deadly weapons! (Attempts to do a karate kick, falls over)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8647 on: December 23, 2015, 02:04:01 pm »

I'd rather not be the sort of self-absorbed ass that assumes every person they happen across is as interested in them and their shit as they are?
Self preservation instincts are synonymous to narcissism with you?

Except, k'now, lack of availability. And I gotta say, if I had to choose between getting into a shootout with a mugger who also had a gun versus running the hell away from one who had a knife or table leg or whatever... I know which situation I'd rather be in.
In a situation where I cannot run the hell away I'd take having a fighting chance over being at my attacker's mercy

Well I'm not 100 kilos but I do tend to be walking down the street at night & I don't particularly want to be shot at or have a gun pulled on me. I'd actually rather be unarmed, I'm not a woman but I don't see why you think that makes a heck of a difference to your question, guys do get mugged as well.
Because the average woman is 6 ft shorter than the average man and half as heavy, can't run away or fight as unless their attacker's been doing too much drugs they will be in better shape and better strength. Guns are pretty good equalizers in that regard. I suppose it's a matter of opinion; I do not have the option of legally being armed but would have appreciated it in the past, less so now. And yeah sure guys get mugged but guys have an easier time getting out of muggings and not getting into them in the first place. They don't walk around with as much stuff to mug outside of city centres where all the police are and what stuff they've got worth jacking is not worth fighting some big bloke over. Snatch a handbag, don't require much effort and you've just nabbed a phone, bag, purse and lol, if you kept a gun in there they're pawning that too xD
Of all the muggings of women in my family the three most notable ones, one was solved by wrestling a knife from a weak junkie, one was solved by tricking the mugger into thinking she only had a fiver and the last jumped into a river leaving a very shocked mugger behind and a story which the police just loved. There was also a stalker who panicked and up and run when she started loudly shouting down the phone there was some fucking mug trailing her
For guys? Nah, step 1 to not getting mugged for a guy is just look as big and poor as fucking possible and step 2 is bring some m8s

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8648 on: December 23, 2015, 02:05:58 pm »

Self preservation instincts are synonymous to narcissism with you?
if they're triggered by something as lame as a tall dude walking toward you at night, yeah, probably

we gotta get places somehow

and sometimes we gotta do that after dark, there's no helping it
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8649 on: December 23, 2015, 02:10:55 pm »

Self preservation instincts are synonymous to narcissism with you?
if they're triggered by something as lame as a tall dude walking toward you at night, yeah, probably
we gotta get places somehow
and sometimes we gotta do that after dark, there's no helping it
Some big guy coming towards you after dark they're either trying to buy drugs, mug you or they know you ;)

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« Reply #8650 on: December 23, 2015, 02:12:05 pm »

That's not true. They could be trying to sell drugs.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8651 on: December 23, 2015, 02:16:02 pm »

I'd rather not be the sort of self-absorbed ass that assumes every person they happen across is as interested in them and their shit as they are?
Self preservation instincts are synonymous to narcissism with you?

Hmm, you're right. The situation in question is much closer to paranoia, or possibly a phobic disorder.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8652 on: December 23, 2015, 02:18:48 pm »

Some big guy coming towards you after dark they're either trying to buy drugs, mug you or they know you ;)
the fact that you assume somebody walking toward you cares about you is what makes it narcissism

i can't tell if this is bait, so i'm responding as though it's not, but dude, if somebody's coming toward you after dark then they're probably headed somewhere unrelated and you just happen to occupy a space near the path they plan to take
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8653 on: December 23, 2015, 02:20:08 pm »

basically any time someone says something was better at some time in the past its pure bullshit.

Agreed 100%! Maybe even more than 100%
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« Reply #8654 on: December 23, 2015, 02:37:08 pm »

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